The Obamanation

[TheMercenary]

I am cool with your Take on it. I just don't agree. But it is far from "extremist partisan bullshit".

[classicman]

yup its Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy past extreme partisan BS.
Kinda like taking a grain of truth and stretching it beyond infinity.

[TheMercenary]

Ok....

[classicman]

finally. Damn man its like killing flies with a sledgehammer with you sometimes.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

finally. Damn man its like killing flies with a sledgehammer with you sometimes.

Actually I just don't care to argue with you about it anymore. Don't miss read that as if I agree, I don't.

[classicman]

Should I have put a on it for you?
I have no expectation of you ever changing your mind,
we've known each other too long for that.

[TheMercenary]

Good enough for me.... what a fucking waste of time talking about this shit....

[classicman]

Can lead a horse to water ...

[TheMercenary]

And I can shoot him and let him drown in his own fantasy of truth.... Later.

[classicman]

OK From your link: We'll use the U-3 (Official)Unemployment Rate
Bush started with 4.0% and when he left it was 7.3% -------+3.1%
Obama started with 7.8% (yep it went up a full 1/2% in one month!)
and continued to rise for 10 months.
and it is currently 8.3% ----------------------------------------+0.5%
Bush's unemployment increase was 6x worse than Obama

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Again from your link: We'll use the U-6 this time
Bush Start 7.1 --------- End 13.5 -----------------------------+6.4%
Obama Start 14.2 currently 15.1------------------------------+0.9%
And Again
Bush's unemployment increase was MORE THAN 6x worse than Obama

Now I ask you ... What is YOUR point?

[TheMercenary]

Bush isn't running for re-election. No need for him to cook the books. It was a non-issue during the time Bush was in office.

[Spexxvet]

Over the last few days, I've heard on the news that:

consumer spending is up
the stock market is up
GDP is up
employment is up
exports are up


The only thing not up is middle class buting power.

[Undertoad]

I'm sure we will be able to powerfully bute any day now

Meanwhile let's pretend the President has next to no ability to affect job creation or even the economy. It's a scary place to be, since we really want them to, and most of them promise improvement, but let's just pretend.

[glatt]

I'd say they have next to no ability to affect those things in a positive way.

They can always drive the bus off the road and over the cliff. You know, they could always declare martial law, and institute a daytime curfew. That would instantly stop the economy. (Just to throw out a ridiculous example to make my point.)

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I'm sure we will be able to powerfully bute any day now

Meanwhile let's pretend the President has next to no ability to affect job creation or even the economy. It's a scary place to be, since we really want them to, and most of them promise improvement, but let's just pretend.

Doesn't matter. A big part of the election will be the economy, for which the current president is always held responsible, whether he is or not.