House of Horrors

Big Sarge · 09-10-2017, 12:04 PM

It is so interesting*to read USA Today has labelled the VA hospital that provides your treatment a "House of Horrors". If you read the article, please note the debacle began during Obama's. We have often joked how we should go to Mexico, throw away our identification, and get caught by*the Border Patrol crossing back to the US. Sad when the illegal aliens have better medical treatment than vets.

Yes, I realize I am whining but it is so frustrating to beg for health care after it was promised. Sorry - needed to vent.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ats/637497001/

fargon · 09-10-2017, 12:56 PM

My VA hospital Tomah Wi gets 3 stars. There have been problems, but overall they have been good.

Gravdigr · 09-10-2017, 03:33 PM

Hi there ya Big ol' Sargey thang ya! Nice to 'hear' from you again.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-10-2017, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

If you read the article, please note the debacle began during Obama's.

Read for comprehension. No, the debacle finally became public during Obama's administration because they didn't try to hide it. I've been listening to guys bitch about the VA hospitals since the 50's and it picked up considerably during Vietnam.

Flint · 09-13-2017, 03:28 PM

Also the economy was ruined during Obama. And he caused racism! Benghazi!!!

orthodoc · 09-13-2017, 09:08 PM

Maybe take a step back and take a larger look, maybe decide to take it to a different thread, Flint. Sarge came here to vent about terrible health care for vets. Yes, the debacle isn't new. Yes, the debacle continues (and didn't get better with eight years of the Obama administration). Sarge can have a legitimate point without having to meet anyone else's legitimacy test.

Flint · 09-14-2017, 10:31 AM

Start a new thread to comment on Bruce's comment in this thread? That's just weird.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-14-2017, 11:34 AM

My comment was that the VA hospitals problem has been ongoing and blaming it on Obama is obviously bringing political bias into a non-partisan problem everyone should be appalled at. I stand by that and feel it was an appropriate response in this thread.

BigV · 09-14-2017, 11:59 AM

Not weird, merely Canadian

sexobon · 09-14-2017, 04:04 PM

Worst case of the debacles I ever saw.

Probably a genetic disorder; but, not along the lines of G6PD Deficiency.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-20-2017, 10:05 PM

Quote:

In August 2016, the VA released what was billed as the "most comprehensive analysis of veteran suicide rates" ever conducted, which examined more than 55 million veterans' records from 1979 to 2014 from all 50 states.

"The current analysis indicates that in 2014, an average of 20 veterans a day died from suicide" -- or one every 72 minutes, the report said.

The data also showed that only six of the 20 veterans who die in the U.S. each day are enrolled in the VA and only three are in active treatment, indicating a need for more outreach by the VA.

The VA's report said that about 65 percent of all veterans who died from suicide in 2014 were 50 years of age or older, and veterans accounted for 18 percent of all deaths from suicide among U.S. adults, a decrease from 22 percent in 2010.
Since 2001, the rate of suicide among veterans who use VA services increased by 8.8 percent, while the rate of suicide among veterans who do not use VA services increased by 38.6 percent, the report said.

The toll-free Veterans Crisis Line is 1-800-273-8255, press 1
"As some of you may know, veterans tend to come to a VA -- either drive a car or come to the VA -- and actually suicide on our property," Shulkin said last Tuesday, stressing the need for the Department of Veterans Affairs to do more to curb veteran suicides, estimated at 20 daily nationwide.

"There are a number of reasons, not all of which I completely understand," for veterans to choose to end their lives at the VA, he said, "but one of them being they don't want their families to have to discover them."

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Pamela · 09-25-2017, 10:05 PM

The traditional jumping off point is still the Golden Gate Bridge in San Fran. They don't always find/recover the body after.

yes, I know I'm going to Hell for that pun, but somebody had to say it!

09-10-2017, 12:04 PM	#1
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	House of Horrors It is so interestingto read USA Today has labelled the VA hospital that provides your treatment a "House of Horrors". If you read the article, please note the debacle began during Obama's. We have often joked how we should go to Mexico, throw away our identification, and get caught bythe Border Patrol crossing back to the US. Sad when the illegal aliens have better medical treatment than vets. Yes, I realize I am whining but it is so frustrating to beg for health care after it was promised. Sorry - needed to vent. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ats/637497001/ __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

09-10-2017, 12:56 PM	#2
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	My VA hospital Tomah Wi gets 3 stars. There have been problems, but overall they have been good. __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

09-10-2017, 03:33 PM	#3
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09-13-2017, 03:28 PM	#5
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Also the economy was ruined during Obama. And he caused racism! Benghazi!!! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

09-13-2017, 09:08 PM	#6
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	Maybe take a step back and take a larger look, maybe decide to take it to a different thread, Flint. Sarge came here to vent about terrible health care for vets. Yes, the debacle isn't new. Yes, the debacle continues (and didn't get better with eight years of the Obama administration). Sarge can have a legitimate point without having to meet anyone else's legitimacy test. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

09-14-2017, 10:31 AM	#7
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Start a new thread to comment on Bruce's comment in this thread? That's just weird. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

09-14-2017, 11:34 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	My comment was that the VA hospitals problem has been ongoing and blaming it on Obama is obviously bringing political bias into a non-partisan problem everyone should be appalled at. I stand by that and feel it was an appropriate response in this thread. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-14-2017, 11:59 AM	#9
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Not weird, merely Canadian __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-14-2017, 04:04 PM	#10
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Worst case of the debacles I ever saw. Probably a genetic disorder; but, not along the lines of G6PD Deficiency.

09-25-2017, 10:05 PM	#12
Pamela Deplorable Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 767	The traditional jumping off point is still the Golden Gate Bridge in San Fran. They don't always find/recover the body after. yes, I know I'm going to Hell for that pun, but somebody had to say it!

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