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Old 12-20-2001, 10:15 AM   #1
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12/20: Boy suicide bomber



It's gotta be hard to convince people to be suicide bombers. So you start out when they're young. In this case, these Palestinian guys are celebrating the 14th anniversary of the militant group Hamas. The bombs are fake; the socialization is real.

I guess they didn't get the Arafat memo to quit doing crap like this.
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Old 12-20-2001, 10:29 AM   #2
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The sadder thing is that the little boy pictured there will almost definitely grow up to be a bitter, angry young man.
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Old 12-20-2001, 10:29 AM   #3
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Oh they GOT the note

They got the note, the basic problem is that Arafat's control has really slipped over the last 10 years or so. My FIL can go into the reasons, but the basic problem is that Arafat is ruling on 2 things 1)Momentum
2)Some fear - (he doesn't take descent well - to the point of hit squads)
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Old 12-20-2001, 11:53 AM   #4
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Good little martyr. God, the look on that kids face... How twisted. He just wants a piece of cake and a game of tag. The sheet-hood thing is always a bad sign.
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Old 12-20-2001, 01:10 PM   #5
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I look at a pic like that, and think "If they're getting to them THIS young, and with THAT kind of message, what hope is EVER for peace in the middle east?"... This kid will grow up to be another suicide bomber, will kill 10 ppl in a senseless act, piss someone off on the other side, and repeat the cycle, over and over and over again....

It almost seems to be his destiny, the fact that its been ingrained so very young into his mind.



But maybe not. In the 1930's, germany had a "Young Nazi Indoctriniation" program, where large numbers of kids were taken by the nazi's and thrown all kinda of weird propaganda bullshit. Special schools. Special movies. Special "lets throw rocks at jews and laugh" fun kid events..... ;p
But 10 years after the war, and a lot of child-psych de-programming time, Germany's young adults were not (all) murderous Jew-hating feurer-lovin' reichstag automatons.


Anyways.. The point is that I see a pic like this and think "jesus... how will the problems over there EVER be solved?". But ..... I think there is hope. ....
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Old 12-20-2001, 06:00 PM   #6
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I think they're getting a little too good at this

So suicide bombings are becoming so common that they are actually mass producing the nylon explosive holders?

I can just see someone at the local Hamas office "yes I'd like to try on the twenty-pound explosive vest please, do you have that in XL?"

Another thing is look how well the things are made:

1) Symmetric design, doesn't matter which way you're facing.

2) low profile, can be worn under clothing

3) simple, just blocks of explosive with a blasting cap to initiate each, no doubt a battery in one of the pockets, and somewhere the dreaded momentary switch.
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Old 12-20-2001, 06:20 PM   #7
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IT is pretty scary, wonder if you cna buy deluxe version with extra padding for your comfort for an extra ilo of rocks and rand or whatever they're reduced to using as currancy.

I"m sure thsoe blocks woudl have an outer layer of ballbearings too, reminds of swordfish...

What is it iwth wearing all while and extremists? Gives us ultra minimalists a bad name...
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Old 12-20-2001, 09:36 PM   #8
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Actually, a lot of suicide bombers just throw a bomb in a backpack.

Also, they generally wrap it in nails or something - more stuff to fly into the victims, ya know. How thoughtful of them.
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Old 12-21-2001, 06:24 AM   #9
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Too sick.


Don't give the Germans too much credit. There were not that many Jews left to hate. My buddy is a manager in a blood products company. They have a lot of overseas customers. The Germans were the only ones that wanted to know, " What percentage of your donors are black?"
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Old 12-21-2001, 08:46 AM   #10
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I remember once

when I was young (13 or so), I was coming out of a bathroom in a mall in Atlanta and a skinhead walked over to me and asked if I wanted to join the WAR -- White Aryan Race. I said "No, thanks," and kept on my way. I guess the blue eyes, blonde hair had something to do with it, because I always wondered what made him try and recruit me. ...ahhh, memories...
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Old 12-21-2001, 12:27 PM   #11
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Too sick.


Don't give the Germans too much credit. There were not that many Jews left to hate. My buddy is a manager in a blood products company. They have a lot of overseas customers. The Germans were the only ones that wanted to know, " What percentage of your donors are black?"
Hopefully he told them

"All of them. Every last single donor. Our blood is certified and guaranteed 100% black, the finest there is."

(of course, it's times like those you wish you were on a videophone :-) )
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Old 12-21-2001, 01:17 PM   #12
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That would've been too perfect! I afraid my buddy was pissed to the point of inarticulation.
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Old 12-21-2001, 07:57 PM   #13
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Re: I think they're getting a little too good at this

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I can just see someone at the local Hamas office "yes I'd like to try on the twenty-pound explosive vest please, do you have that in XL?"
While over there in the office of the Israeli Airforce, "This is the Hamas office. Do not attack it. Over there is the Police Station. That is where all the terrorism comes from. Attack that. And don't forget that Police Monitor stand over there. He is also a terrorist. Hit him too."

Why do they hit Arafat's people (Fatah) and not Hamas? Hitting Hamas would only make Sharon less powerful. It's all about promoting Sharon. Sharon loves pictures like the one above. It only makes us all more extremists and therefore makes Sharon more powerful. Hitler also came to power this way. Night of a Thousand Knives - or a thousand nails ... what's the difference as long as moderates are driven into the arms of extremist thinkers.
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Old 01-07-2002, 12:17 AM   #14
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This is too important an image to let slip off the page.

The orignial post by Undertoad was not a one of a kind situation.

There are enough of these youngsters to open a chain of GAZA Kids stores.
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Old 01-07-2002, 03:12 AM   #15
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well, i happen to live with germans, YES, real germans (they're in fact, german immigrants)...and they happen to be, seriously, the nicest people i have ever met. they are not racist, or nazis, and i have never heard them say a bad thing about any other people, save the assholes and idiots everyone complains about.

so i do give them a lot of credit, and instead of judging them based on the fact that germany used to be nazi-occupied, i judge them on their personalities.
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