Hot takes on the Democratic frontrunners

[tw]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Mr. Clod's company has a service like that on retainer

Does it work for kidnapping?

[Clodfobble]

If you can get to a phone and tell them where you are, yes. They may or may not tip off local law enforcement, I don't know. But the service is basically no questions asked, and near-immediate deployment and arrival.

[slang]

Mr. Yang seems to get it.

"Presidential candidate Andrew Yang (D) on Monday evening mocked the mainstream media for still insisting that “Russia” collusion, “racism,” and “sexism” got President Donald Trump elected and not understanding that Trump’s economic nationalism actually propelled him to the White House."

He's not a Trump defender by all means but is thinking outside the Communist Democrat narrative. He has some very interesting ideas that are not generally something that I'd support. Plus he looks like a friend of mine here in Baguio.

He's a great candidate if Breitbart writes about him in a good light.

[Flint]

Another person agreeing with something that Bernie Sanders has been saying all along, e.g. Trump's appeal was economic populism; "Some people think that the people who voted for Trump are racists and sexists and homophobes and deplorable folks. I don't agree..."

Love him or hate him, everything that the Democrats are doing (that has any appeal to anybody besides diehard party loyalists), is based on Bernie's 2016 platform. People say Bernie "isn't as Progressive" as he used to be-- well DUH, it's "not Progressive" anymore because EVERYBODY'S DOING IT now.

He's transformed politics. When he lost the Primary in 2016 it was like killing Obi-Wan Kenobi.

[Happy Monkey]

It was close enough that EVERY factor "propelled him to the White House". If someone says "it was this, not that", they're probably wrong.

[henry quirk]

Are any of these dem potentials promisin', in any way, to reduce the size & power of government on any level?

[slang]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Are any of these dem potentials promisin', in any way, to reduce the size & power of government on any level?

No. That's impossible. Am I wrong?

[Flint]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Are any of these dem potentials promisin', in any way, to reduce the size & power of government on any level?

Progressives are intensely interested in reducing the size & power of large entities which overpower the liberty of individuals, we just disagree on what the primary threats are.

[henry quirk]

"No. That's impossible. Am I wrong?"

Nope: it was a trick question.

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"Progressives are intensely interested in reducing the size & power of large entities which overpower the liberty of individuals"

Big business, in other words. Simple: make government stop protecting & catering to 'em. Otherwise: leave 'em be.

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"we just disagree on what the primary threats are."

Actually, if you think on it, we aren't that far apart. You want corps and the like reduced in power and scope; so do I. Where we disagree: you want gov to regulate 'em; I want gov to stop -- as I say -- protecting & catering to 'em.

You'd monitor & micromanage 'em; I'd throw 'em into the wilderness to fend for themselves.

What we disagree on, then, is the proper role of American 'government'.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

"No. That's impossible. Am I wrong?"

Nope: it was a trick question.

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"Progressives are intensely interested in reducing the size & power of large entities which overpower the liberty of individuals"

Big business, in other words. Simple: make government stop protecting & catering to 'em. Otherwise: leave 'em be.

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"we just disagree on what the primary threats are."

Actually, if you think on it, we aren't that far apart. You want corps and the like reduced in power and scope; so do I. Where we disagree: you want gov to regulate 'em; I want gov to stop -- as I say -- protecting & catering to 'em.

You'd monitor & micromanage 'em; I'd throw 'em into the wilderness to fend for themselves.

What we disagree on, then, is the proper role of American 'government'.

Agreed, on every point. You and I want the same things, for the same reasons. Just a different idea of what gets us there. I'd like to think that's a valuable lesson for American politics. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[glatt]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

I'd throw 'em into the wilderness to fend for themselves.

Where they would dump dioxin barrels in the woods.

Seriously. How old are you? Don't you remember the pollution in the 60s and 70s? The rivers that burned? The detergent in the rivers, making a crusty brown foam? Soot covering everything? The lead in the gasoline exhaust that everyone was breathing and the crime that resulted from all that brain damage? Cars without seat belts?

The big corporations literally don't give a shit about you or me except how they can make money off of us. The big government keeps them on a leash.

[Undertoad]

We have here a diverse field of candidates, of different ethnicity, gender, orientation and race. Now, let's watch, as the intersectionally-driven media officially loses its fucking shit.

Newsweek tweeted headline: "Pete Buttigieg has a problem with black voters, and his town hall answer on incarcerated voters shows it"

Replies: "Newsweek, did you just post wildly racist clickbait? Do you figure all blacks are criminals, and vice versa?"

Newsweek: "Well uh" (deletes tweet)

Replies: "I think the original headline told the truth pretty well, it just told the truth about you instead of the issue."

[slang]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

...Newsweek tweeted headline:"Pete Buttigieg has a problem with black voters, and his town hall answer on incarcerated voters shows it"...

They seem to have forgotten for a moment that Buttigieg is a democrat.

That's the sort of crap they normally reserve for republicans. Glad they straightened that out.

[Flint]

It always surprises me when people don't seem to know the extent that the Left side of the political spectrum brutally cannibalizes itself on a daily basis. Progressives hate Liberals because they think they're Centrists. Far-Left factions think Progressives don't take direct enough action, and if you really want to see a group of people that cannot agree on anything, watch a group of Communists attack each others' credentials. "You haven't read the right books!" Then you have the Democratic Socialists, whom the hard Socialists think will never accomplish anything meaningful.

But, after 20 years of Fox News putting the "Socialist" label on Center-Right Liberals, the "Left" is just one big amorphous blob.



In short, if you think Democrats won't attack a Democrat, hoo boy.

[henry quirk]

Yeah, but they won't do it right: with guns.