RIP Ronald Reagan - Page 15

wolf · 06-11-2004, 01:30 PM

Amazing Grace is the one that always gets me.

Particularly on bagpipes, which is the way it's usually done at cop and fire funerals.

Elspode · 06-12-2004, 11:56 PM

I blame myself for Radar's behavior in this thread. I probably shouldn't have titled it RIP Ronald Reagan. Radar is just following instructions.

blue · 06-13-2004, 12:21 AM

What is it with amazing grace anyway? My wife swoons over this, it will be played at her funeral. It's a great song granted, but why do people get so loopy about it?

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-12-2005, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue

What is it with amazing grace anyway? My wife swoons over this, it will be played at her funeral. It's a great song granted, but why do people get so loopy about it?

Blue, H-Monkey, Bruce: Amazing Grace is a tune of great musical merit, and is a tune for the ages. Almost every piper on Earth also knows it -- I've met exactly one piper who didn't, and I taught it to him. The guy'd never sung it in church. Maybe he was a Unitarian or something. It's also the rock simplest tune there is on the pipes; there is precisely one spot in the tune you need to play carefully to avoid the technical error called the "crossing noise." Easy, easy, easy; not only could a piper play it in his sleep, he could play it drugged.

That aside, the tune isn't particularly funerary. Another popular tune for funerals is Dvoràk's tune sometimes called "Going Home." Contemplative, melodious, and a slow march. But the real funeral tune on the pipes for my money is "Flowers of the Forest." "Amazing Grace" can bring tears to even the most self possessed of stiff-upper-lippers, but "Flowers of the Forest," played at a deliberate pace and with schmaltz (and that's deliberate, too) can make you tear your heart out of your chest with your fingernails for grief. The tune sobs and wails, and calls for a bit of self-possession on the piper's part if played solo. It's probably easier with a trio of pipers. The tune might even have an arrangement of seconds for one of the pipers to play.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-12-2005, 10:55 PM

Quote:

not only could a piper play it in his sleep, he could play it drugged.

I'll attest to that. I had to listen to between 25 and 35 drunk pipers play it a least a dozen times every Memorial day. There wasn't a deer, rabbit or squirrel within 3 miles of the place by nightfall.
Oh, and all the dogs were psycho.

Happy Monkey · 06-13-2004, 07:42 AM

By any chance, has she seen the "Amazing Grace" documentary on PBS? Very well done, and could easily increase the sentimental feeling towards the song,

xoxoxoBruce · 06-13-2004, 08:11 AM

Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.

'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved.
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils and snares
I have already come;
'Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far
And grace will lead me home.

The Lord has promised good to me
His word my hope secures;
He will my shield and portion be,
As long as life endures.

Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
and mortal life shall cease,
I shall possess within the veil,
A life of joy and peace.

When we've been there ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun,
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.

John Newton 1725-1807 (stanza 6 Anon)

Happy Monkey · 08-09-2005, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Talk-radio host Chris Dickson was enraged by the Reagan incident.

"I was at the Reagan Presidential Library in February of this year," he told WND. "'Dutch' was my commander in chief. I have personal interest in getting this individual and trying to protect the desecration of presidential graves against First Amendment rights."

Interesting wording, that...

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-09-2005, 01:06 PM

Which may raise the question of whether in this circumstance taking a big stick and whacking somebody's peepee in rebuttal amounts to protected speech.

Stupid pissy fascist person. Reagan's wisdom did the whole planet so much good, and the slavemongering slaveminded jackasses have never recovered.

Radar · 08-09-2005, 01:41 PM

Reagan did the world as much good as Josef Stalin. He spent generations of Americans into debt at birth, he tripled the size of government, he spent like a drunken sailor and left our children to pay the bill. He traded arms for hostages and then lied under oath about it.

I still may piss on his grave someday, and there's not a thing you, or a thousand of you could do about it.

lookout123 · 08-09-2005, 01:50 PM

nope there isn't a thing i can do about it. or want to do about it. except continue to laugh at you for thinking your vitriolic splash actually matters.

Happy Monkey · 08-09-2005, 02:10 PM

I'd be happy to let dead presidents lie, if only they didn't keep trying to name stuff after him. Especially in DC.

At least the Reagan Building is shaped like a toilet.

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-11-2005, 05:12 PM

Quote:

...and there's not a thing you, or a thousand of you could do about it.

Except teach you a new and undesired meaning of the phrase "to jerk off."

There are numerous rocky hills around the Reagan Presidential Library, and each of the numerous hills has numerous cactus patches on it. We wouldn't mind dragging such a pissy fellow through and over the entire lot of them. We'll insult his intelligence, too. You don't want to be that bad a jerk. Seriously.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-11-2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

We wouldn't mind dragging such a pissy fellow through and over the entire lot of them.

WE? You seem to have a penchant for commiting other people to violence.

Griff · 08-11-2005, 07:46 PM

Oddly, if he really is a member of the Libertarian Party he signed this- "I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force as a means of achieving political or social goals."

06-11-2004, 01:30 PM	#1
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Amazing Grace is the one that always gets me. Particularly on bagpipes, which is the way it's usually done at cop and fire funerals. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-12-2004, 11:56 PM	#2
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I blame myself for Radar's behavior in this thread. I probably shouldn't have titled it RIP Ronald Reagan. Radar is just following instructions. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

06-13-2004, 12:21 AM	#3
blue Operations Operative Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern WI Posts: 739	What is it with amazing grace anyway? My wife swoons over this, it will be played at her funeral. It's a great song granted, but why do people get so loopy about it? __________________ If you spot a tornado, always remember to point at it, yell "tornado!", and run like hell.

06-13-2004, 07:42 AM	#6
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	By any chance, has she seen the "Amazing Grace" documentary on PBS? Very well done, and could easily increase the sentimental feeling towards the song, __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-13-2004, 08:11 AM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Amazing grace! How sweet the sound That saved a wretch like me. I once was lost, but now am found, Was blind, but now I see. 'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, And grace my fears relieved. How precious did that grace appear The hour I first believed. Through many dangers, toils and snares I have already come; 'Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far And grace will lead me home. The Lord has promised good to me His word my hope secures; He will my shield and portion be, As long as life endures. Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail, and mortal life shall cease, I shall possess within the veil, A life of joy and peace. When we've been there ten thousand years Bright shining as the sun, We've no less days to sing God's praise Than when we've first begun. John Newton 1725-1807 (stanza 6 Anon) __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-09-2005, 01:06 PM	#9
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Which may raise the question of whether in this circumstance taking a big stick and whacking somebody's peepee in rebuttal amounts to protected speech. Stupid pissy fascist person. Reagan's wisdom did the whole planet so much good, and the slavemongering slaveminded jackasses have never recovered. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

08-09-2005, 01:41 PM	#10
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Reagan did the world as much good as Josef Stalin. He spent generations of Americans into debt at birth, he tripled the size of government, he spent like a drunken sailor and left our children to pay the bill. He traded arms for hostages and then lied under oath about it. I still may piss on his grave someday, and there's not a thing you, or a thousand of you could do about it. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

08-09-2005, 01:50 PM	#11
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	nope there isn't a thing i can do about it. or want to do about it. except continue to laugh at you for thinking your vitriolic splash actually matters. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

08-09-2005, 02:10 PM	#12
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I'd be happy to let dead presidents lie, if only they didn't keep trying to name stuff after him. Especially in DC. At least the Reagan Building is shaped like a toilet. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-11-2005, 07:46 PM	#15
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Oddly, if he really is a member of the Libertarian Party he signed this- "I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force as a means of achieving political or social goals." __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)