Now that Georgie has lost the Election... - Page 7

OnyxCougar · 11-03-2004, 01:39 PM

The senators and representatives that I wrote to all stated to the effect that "we won't vote for a draft unless we have to vote for a draft."

Hardly inspires confidence there won't be one. With declining recruitment numbers, I don't discount it. With more than half the people in America voting for Bush's policies and now a Republican Congress to back him up, who knows what will happen?

wolf · 11-03-2004, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

With more than half the people in America voting for Bush's policies and now a Republican Congress to back him up, who knows what will happen?

Hint: Look up the meaning of "representative democracy" and "democratic republic".

The key is in your statement "more than half the people" ...

OnyxCougar · 11-03-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Hint: Look up the meaning of "representative democracy" and "democratic republic".

The key is in your statement "more than half the people" ...

Somehow, I missed your point.

Kitsune · 11-03-2004, 02:29 PM

Cool down, guys. Pick up a pen, write a letter to your representative/post flyers declaring your angst/whatever. This country has been so badly polarized for this long, I'm hoping everyone finds the time to cool down now that its over.

And have a drink, tonight, for Chrissakes. Relax. This election has been more stressful on everyone than most people realize.

vsp · 11-03-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

Cool down, guys. Pick up a pen, write a letter to your representative/post flyers declaring your angst/whatever.

My representative is Curt Weldon, who cosponsored a restart-the-draft bill BEFORE Rangel's bill.

My senators are Arlen Specter and Rick "Man-on-Dog" Santorum.

None of them could give a rat's ass what a suburban Democrat thinks.

Undertoad · 11-03-2004, 01:40 PM

Yes Bri, nobody wants YOUR progeny to be serving their country. Nowadays they want the ones who don't pee their pants at the first sign of danger.

The days of cannon fodder are over, but if you want to be a moron, a loser, and an idiot, go ahead and vote on the basis of little more than whim. Because that's how we get great leaders!

jaguar · 11-03-2004, 01:43 PM

UT, you usually avoid the personal attacks, I don't think this merits that kind of rubbish, why do you? Considering the way things are going in Iraq, not to mention TWAT in general, while a flat out draft is unlikely the chances of er....increased suggestions of a career dodging roadside bombs and mortars is likely.

Undertoad · 11-03-2004, 01:44 PM

Bri isn't interested in reading for comprehension.

Trilby · 11-03-2004, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Bri isn't interested in reading for comprehension.

Hm. Anyone with a differing opinion is a moron, eh? BTW, my kids are really not up for you to insult. That's waaaay beneath you.

iamthewalrus109 · 11-03-2004, 02:51 PM

Quote: "Always be wary of conflicts faught in your name that you are not asked to participate in" - Walrus

I start with one of my more sardonic statements to make this point: There's no draft because the will of the people to actually paticipate in this conflict is next to nothing. This is part of Charlie Rangel's contention. Although his reasoning is that it should effect law makers decisions if there children were forced to hide from a standing draft. My assertion is that this would awake the American people to the realities of the conflict in ways that are nothing short than extreme. Bush and the military-industrial complex don't want to alarm the coffers that the American tax payer offers. They start sending regular kids to die in the sand, you would see a lot of angry citizens. These are citizens not from military backgrounds, like many of the volunteers we see fighting today. A draft would mean true re-enfranchisement of the electorate, we would truly have a right, because regular people's lives would be on the line. All this would mean more people would want to be involved in decsion making, and policy would be harder to control.

-Walrus

Trilby · 11-03-2004, 01:50 PM

Oh, you know what?? Now that UT has explained it all to me (moron that I am) I TOTALLY see the error of my stupid ways and am now reformed! I SAID I didn't vote based on the draft issue---or, didn't you read for comprehension there?

Trilby · 11-03-2004, 01:55 PM

How could you say that about my kids?

Undertoad · 11-03-2004, 02:08 PM

Fine, I take it back.

lumberjim · 11-03-2004, 03:28 PM

I'm pretty sure that this is the beginning of a full blown war with multiple participants. something stupid will happen in Korea, and we'll be in a land war in China before we know it. On the bright side....

....uhm...

......i got nothin' here.

Troubleshooter · 11-03-2004, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

something stupid will happen in Korea

It is inebitabull...

11-03-2004, 01:39 PM	#1
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	The senators and representatives that I wrote to all stated to the effect that "we won't vote for a draft unless we have to vote for a draft." Hardly inspires confidence there won't be one. With declining recruitment numbers, I don't discount it. With more than half the people in America voting for Bush's policies and now a Republican Congress to back him up, who knows what will happen? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

11-03-2004, 01:43 PM	#7
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	UT, you usually avoid the personal attacks, I don't think this merits that kind of rubbish, why do you? Considering the way things are going in Iraq, not to mention TWAT in general, while a flat out draft is unlikely the chances of er....increased suggestions of a career dodging roadside bombs and mortars is likely. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

11-03-2004, 02:51 PM	#10
iamthewalrus109 High Propagandist Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 111	I wish they would institute the draft Quote: "Always be wary of conflicts faught in your name that you are not asked to participate in" - Walrus I start with one of my more sardonic statements to make this point: There's no draft because the will of the people to actually paticipate in this conflict is next to nothing. This is part of Charlie Rangel's contention. Although his reasoning is that it should effect law makers decisions if there children were forced to hide from a standing draft. My assertion is that this would awake the American people to the realities of the conflict in ways that are nothing short than extreme. Bush and the military-industrial complex don't want to alarm the coffers that the American tax payer offers. They start sending regular kids to die in the sand, you would see a lot of angry citizens. These are citizens not from military backgrounds, like many of the volunteers we see fighting today. A draft would mean true re-enfranchisement of the electorate, we would truly have a right, because regular people's lives would be on the line. All this would mean more people would want to be involved in decsion making, and policy would be harder to control. -Walrus

11-03-2004, 01:50 PM	#11
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Oh, you know what?? Now that UT has explained it all to me (moron that I am) I TOTALLY see the error of my stupid ways and am now reformed! I SAID I didn't vote based on the draft issue---or, didn't you read for comprehension there? __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-03-2004, 01:55 PM	#12
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	How could you say that about my kids? __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-03-2004, 02:29 PM	#4
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Cool down, guys. Pick up a pen, write a letter to your representative/post flyers declaring your angst/whatever. This country has been so badly polarized for this long, I'm hoping everyone finds the time to cool down now that its over. And have a drink, tonight, for Chrissakes. Relax. This election has been more stressful on everyone than most people realize.

11-03-2004, 01:40 PM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Yes Bri, nobody wants YOUR progeny to be serving their country. Nowadays they want the ones who don't pee their pants at the first sign of danger. The days of cannon fodder are over, but if you want to be a moron, a loser, and an idiot, go ahead and vote on the basis of little more than whim. Because that's how we get great leaders!

11-03-2004, 01:44 PM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Bri isn't interested in reading for comprehension.

11-03-2004, 02:08 PM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Fine, I take it back.

11-03-2004, 03:28 PM	#14
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I'm pretty sure that this is the beginning of a full blown war with multiple participants. something stupid will happen in Korea, and we'll be in a land war in China before we know it. On the bright side.... ....uhm... ......i got nothin' here. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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