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Old 11-04-2004, 12:38 PM   #1
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Is there one? I'm afraid Bush got us into a no-win situation.

In my opinion.........anytime...not excluding yesterday. The real question being, what are we really looking to win? Mid East democracy is a doomed ideal from the outset. A complete fiction. No matter how much we expect to gain from this with fuel, we will never cover the cost of taxpayer dollars and the expense of human lives. We have begun to indebt ourselves to failure.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:56 PM   #2
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Good lord people are ugly today.

What's wrong with everyone? Why must you yell like this? My god... c-can't you see you're all tearing this family apart?

Stop yelling! The kids are going to hear us!
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:18 PM   #3
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Good lord people are ugly today.

What's wrong with everyone? Why must you yell like this? My god... c-can't you see you're all tearing this family apart?

Stop yelling! The kids are going to hear us!
My god people, you're almost as bad as.......Congress.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:14 PM   #4
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My thoughts on the election outcome.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:25 PM   #5
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Sycamore, what the heck is that? The "wolf-sycamore" commentary show? Or is it an alternate Cellar universe where everything is different colors?

Eh, my comments, here, which replaced my front page and will for the next three days.

There's a whole lot of yelling on the 'net, tonight. ...and a whole lot of good any of it is going to do.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:33 PM   #6
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Sycamore, what the heck is that? The "wolf-sycamore" commentary show?
More or less...don't forget Bruce.

The Bosque replaced the original Sycamore Manifestos in February.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:28 PM   #7
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Wow, Syc. That was -- eloquent.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:28 PM   #8
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Ashcroft resigning?

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My thoughts on the election outcome.
If you go to Drudge right now there is this (unlinked) headline:

<b><i>Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... </i></b>

Holy shit! This is a step in the right direction, if true. Maybe there really is a God. Is this going to be 'A Kinder, Gentler America: Part 2'?
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:40 PM   #9
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If you go to Drudge right now there is this (unlinked) headline:

<b><i>Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... </i></b>

Holy shit! This is a step in the right direction, if true. Maybe there really is a God. Is this going to be 'A Kinder, Gentler America: Part 2'?
Not if he replaces him with Anita Bryant..

Seriously, this could be an attempt to de-politicize the DOJ, or it could be an attempt to bring in someone with less ethics to overlook the indiscretions of large campaign contributors. One thing about Ashcroft is that he was honest. It might be that Karl needs to repay some debts and an honest man would make things complicated.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:45 PM   #10
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Is this going to be 'A Kinder, Gentler America: Part 2'?
Eh...I don't recall things being kindler and gentler during Bush Sr.'s term.
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:04 PM   #11
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Eh...I don't recall things being kindler and gentler during Bush Sr.'s term.
Eh...they were kinder and gentler then than they are now. Maybe Dubya is back smoking dope again. I just dunno.
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Old 11-03-2004, 10:14 PM   #12
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If you go to Drudge right now there is this (unlinked) headline:

<b><i>Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'... </i></b>

Holy shit! This is a step in the right direction, if true.
Not really. I expect Ashcroft to be replaced with someone just as bad, perhaps not as flamboyant as Mr. Let The Eagle Soar, but equally dangerous.

My stomach has been hurting all day. I hope to get at least a little sleep tonight.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:34 AM   #13
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I went looking at the Selective Service website. I did so to confirm some information that I thought I recalled. 18 year olds began having to register with the selective service in 1980, based on a law initiated in July of that year. Who was responsible? Jimmy Carter.
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:48 PM   #14
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I went looking at the Selective Service website. I did so to confirm some information that I thought I recalled. 18 year olds began having to register with the selective service in 1980, based on a law initiated in July of that year. Who was responsible? Jimmy Carter.
Oh my god, that's hilarious! We've sunken to blaming Jimmy-friggin-Carter for things now? I was pretty young during his presidency, but I do remember that Iran was in our faces pretty bad during those years. Funny, but Mr. Carter didn't decide to start in full-scale, zillion dollar, unwinnable war with Iran. Oh wait, maybe it's because they didn't have any "Weapons of Mass Destruction."
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Old 11-04-2004, 01:03 PM   #15
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Unfortunately, pulling out will result in Iraq being a massive terrorist state. If that is inevitable, then pulling out ASAP is best. If there's a hope of some sort of functioning government, it may be worthwhile holding out for it. I'm not sure whether there's hope at this point.
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