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Old 10-09-2006, 09:32 AM   #1
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I'm actually not sure which worries me more, having one and not using it or having one and using it...
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:47 AM   #2
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It just amazes me how liberals will hold forth on this issue without actually being willing to read the law. Pennsylvania's justification law is typical amongst the "shall-issue" states; I posted a link to it earlier.
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:07 PM   #3
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It just amazes me how liberals will hold forth on this issue without actually being willing to read the law...
It just amazes me how conservatives think that because the law states such-and-such, that such-and-such will actually happen. Don't you have a gun for situations occur outside of the law? Aren't there going to be situations that are ambiguous in terms of the law? Are there situations where your judgement and actions are not consistent with the law? Do you wear your republinders so close to your head that these possibilities don't even occur to you?
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Old 10-09-2006, 01:54 PM   #4
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It just amazes me how conservatives think that because the law states such-and-such, that such-and-such will actually happen. Don't you have a gun for situations occur outside of the law?
Have you read the law yet?

I didn't think so.
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:13 PM   #5
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Have you read the law yet?

I didn't think so.
Have you answered my question yet.

I know you did not, it's not just what I think.:p
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:17 PM   #6
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Have you answered my question yet.
Yes, I did. As I've said several times, my behavior would be guided by what the law allows. Since you say you don't care about the law, you're out of luck.

If it was my intention to violate the law, I'd have to be a moron to admit that intention in writing.
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Old 10-10-2006, 01:49 AM   #7
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Have you answered my question yet.

I know you did not, it's not just what I think.:p
No... I don't. But, I live in a castle doctrine state.
If you are in my home uninvited/unannounced you are there to kill my family... you die. The same goes for a street threat. I must assume you are armed and mean me, or my family, harm with deadly force.
No responsible parent/spouse has the right to assume anything else IMO.
BTW... being fired upon, seeing a gun, is WAY too late.
My answer.

Don't know about CO... but in FL if you have reason to believe that you are in danger it does not matter what side of the door the body falls on... you have the RIGHT to protect yourself and that is right and just.
I was a bouncer and in security for several years, you never know what they have on them and you never know exactly when and how they are going to choose to do what they are going to do. If they choose to attack you or behave in a manner as to force you to respond in manner that is such that you must believe that your life is in danger, you have no time to "decide" what the intricacies of the law are. There is time to act and nothing else. At least FL and some other castle doctrine states have the wisdom to know that.

Oh... I do not have "republiblinders". I am a legalize it, go alternative fuel, pure Constitution followin', old timey, tie-dye wearin', liberal. That is why I believe in everyone's freedom to protect themselves just like we have always been able to do. Not one of these new fangled commie liberals.... they are not liberal at all, they are dictators in disguise.

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Old 10-09-2006, 03:08 PM   #8
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It just amazes me how liberals will hold forth on this issue without actually being willing to read the law. Pennsylvania's justification law is typical amongst the "shall-issue" states; I posted a link to it earlier.
For once, could you just answer my question without the knee jerk Pavlov reaction about liberals? Show me the law and define the situation, pretty please...
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:48 AM   #9
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the knee jerk Pavlov reaction about liberals?


You got that right.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:56 AM   #10
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Ok, you think "There is my target".
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:04 AM   #11
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Ok, you think "There is my target".
Hopefully you started that thought with "That *is* a target", and followed it with "There's clear space behind."
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:42 PM   #12
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Hopefully you started that thought with "That *is* a target", and followed it with "There's clear space behind."
You have never been shot at.
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Old 10-09-2006, 01:44 PM   #13
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You have never been shot at.
True dat. I hope to keep it that way, too.
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:14 PM   #14
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Do you wear your republinders so close to your head that these possibilities don't even occur to you?
Of course those situations exist. But she has already acknowledged that she's not going to play the "what if" game--both because of the futility of such a thing, as well as the potential legal complications if she ever were to have to shoot someone and this messageboard somehow got entered into evidence.
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:53 PM   #15
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Of course those situations exist. But she has already acknowledged that she's not going to play the "what if" game--both because of the futility of such a thing, as well as the potential legal complications if she ever were to have to shoot someone and this messageboard somehow got entered into evidence.
Of course! Maggie has legitimate reasons. Anybody with an opposition to the way Maggie thinks does so for illegitimate reasons - liberalism, weakness, ignorance.
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