Shooting at Virginia Tech

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

http://www.ichv.org/Statistics.htm

They do happen whether you see them or not.

They may be accurate, but I will question anything that comes from an anti-gun site before I see the original source of the statistic from the CDC. There is motive from these people to show you factoids that have been altered and doctored to show what they want you to see just to bolster their message.

[Shawnee123]

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[AgentApathy]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Quote:
Originally Posted by ichv.org
FACT:In 2004 (the most recent year for which data is available), there were 29,569 gun deaths in the U.S:


16,750 suicides (56% of all U.S gun deaths),
11,624 homicides (40% of all U.S gun deaths),
649 unintentional shootings, 311 from legal intervention and 235 from undetermined intent (4% of all U.S gun deaths combined).
-Numbers obtained from CDC National Center for Health Statistics mortality report online, 2007.
http://www.ichv.org/Statistics.htm

They do happen whether you see them or not.

To look at these figures, it seems like we need to balance US suicide figures against those of others where violence is "less rampant." Do you really think that suicides will cease to happen if guns aren't available, or (more likely) that people will just find another way?

It frustrates me that there isn't a further breakdown on how the guns were used: drug related crime, B&Es/robbery, crimes of passion, organized crime, etc. Really, that tells a lot more of a story to me than a black and white total number. I don't live in the hood but I don't live in a gated community either; I think I live the way most Americans do, and I think my chances are ridiculously small of ever seeing any kind of firearm violence. I'm not afraid!

[freshnesschronic]

I can't wait til morning comes and the other American dwellars reply to your "rampant" bashing of America.

[duck_duck]

Oh course, americans are prideful and so I'm sure to receive all kinds of personal insults for my opinions. We all know that expressing any opinion that is negative of america is of course america bashing.
Since I'm doomed to be insulted by your fellow americans in the morning, I would like to add not only is your crime out of control but you have a pop culture that glorifies.

[freshnesschronic]

No shit we have a pop culture that glorifies, but you didn't say what. Oh right, mass murder, like this KOREAN immigrant who slaughtered 32 people in AMERICA. Obviously our crime is out of control, damn. Let's just make another glorifying pop video about how we love crime. That's what we do. That's America. You came here, don't blame me.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

No shit we have a pop culture that glorifies, but you didn't say what. Oh right, mass murder, like this KOREAN immigrant who slaughtered 32 people in AMERICA. Obviously our crime is out of control, damn. Let's just make another glorifying pop video about how we love crime. That's what we do. That's America. You came here, don't blame me.

Oh my mistake, your pop culture glorifies violence. That much is obvious.
Interesting how you point out the mass killer was an immigrant. He lived there since he was 8 years old.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

Oh my mistake, your pop culture glorifies violence. That much is obvious.
Interesting how you point out the mass killer was an immigrant. He lived there since he was 8 years old.

Shit, I'm an immigrant I came here when I was two. In fact my family tells me of their extended family in Mindanao who fled the Philippines because of the violence caused by the Moros in MY country. Damn, I'm even going to get personal to prove you wrong.

[SadistSecret]

I'm going to stop listening also if that caps lock key doesn't get turned off.

[SadistSecret]

I wasn't trying to debunk actual police statistics, but I know a lot of what outsiders think of a place is by what they hear of it in the news and from other people. I'm jsut sick of the media making the US as a whole look bad.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by SadistSecret

I wasn't trying to debunk actual police statistics, but I know a lot of what outsiders think of a place is by what they hear of it in the news and from other people. I'm jsut sick of the media making the US as a whole look bad.

Before I moved to america I had a completely different view. It wasn't until I lived here that I figured out just how bad the crime was.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by SadistSecret

I wasn't trying to debunk actual police statistics, but I know a lot of what outsiders think of a place is by what they hear of it in the news and from other people. I'm jsut sick of the media making the US as a whole look bad.

Me too.

[SadistSecret]

Oh, and just for the record, I have a penis.

[SadistSecret]

I'm from a medium-ish size city in the midwest, so crime isn't that big of an issue where I'm at. I've also been in the military, and when you ask your fellow soldiers where they are from, you get kind of a window into a lot of the country. Things I've heard about some of the places my friends are from makes me not want to go there, ever.

[duck_duck]

ok!