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View Poll Results: What are your thoughts about'Amnesty In America'? | |||
It creates more questions than it answers. |
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4 | 25.00% |
I understand and support amnesty for illegals. |
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0 | 0% |
We should fix our broken borders first. |
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10 | 62.50% |
Borders is a book store. That's all I know. |
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2 | 12.50% |
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll |
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I think this line's mostly filler.
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DC
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Illegals aren't a problem that can be fixed on just one side of the border, and most illegals are from, or come through, Mexico.
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Franklin Pierce
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minnesota
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I know, I am not trying to claim that this is the solution but that we should be looking in this direction for a possible solution. I was using the Marshall Plan as an example on how we can make change in other countries in a positive way.
The best thing I can think an individual can do is microfinance. For our country as a whole, assuming we decide to help, is much more complicated because it needs to be a plan that will go through without corruption which is almost laughable. |
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The future is unwritten
Join Date: Oct 2002
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In order to implement a Mexican Marshall Plan we have to first win a war. Hmmmm
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Franklin Pierce
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minnesota
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Did you read what I said? I used the Marshall Plan as an example on how something like that could work, I am not saying we actually bring it back.
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#5 |
The future is unwritten
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Hello, did you read what I wrote? There is nothing we can do for Mexico without invading and changing their whole system.
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Layperson
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Did anyone here about the town in California-go figure-that is offering sanctuary to illegals? They actually stopped their DUI traffic sites because they were catching too many illegals. Eventually, they shut down more things because too many illegals were involved. So, if we let them break one law, we have to let them break many more. What don't we understand about "ILLEGAL?" This is killing the U.S. Bush needs out.
We need Tom Tancredo to clean up the mess. Bush and the Dems are selling us all out for diversity. What happened to being an American, not a black American, or latino American, or this or that type of American, but just an American. Diversity sucks when it comes to the culture of a nation. |
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Layperson
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sandpoint, ID
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp
The animals pictured below; car-jacked, then raped Christopher Newsom, cut off his penis, then set him on fire and fatally shot him several times while they forced his girlfriend, Channon Christian, to watch. An even more cruel fate awaited her! Channon Christian, was beaten and gang-raped in many ways for four days by all of them, while they took turns urinating on her. Then they cut off her breast and put chemicals in her mouth ... and then murdered her. Dozens of New Charges in Double Murder Case Announced Posted: 5:05 PM Feb 1, 2007. Last Updated: 11:40 AM Feb 8, 2007. Reporter: Whitney Daniel, WVLT Staff Knoxville (WVLT) - The District Attorney General of Knox County announced the list of charges facing now five suspects in the double murder of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. The District Attorney General Randy Nichols is not saying whether or not he will seek the death penalty, but he does say the State will seek conviction for all charges filed in a 24-page indictment from the Knox County Grand Jury. Lemaricus Davidson, 25, faces a total of 46 charges. Davidson was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, 2 counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially aggravated robberies from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom, and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom. Letalvis Cobbins, 24, faces a total of 46 charges. Cobbins was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, 2 counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially aggravated robberies from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated k! idnappi ng of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom, and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom. George Thomas, 24, faces a total of 46 charges. Thomas was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, 2 counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially aggravated robberies from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom, and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom. Just last night, police in Lebanon , Kentucky , arrested 18-year-old Vanessa Coleman. She faces 40 Tennessee state charges. Coleman was indicted on 12 counts Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, 1 count Premeditated Murder of Christian only, 1 count Especially Aggravated Robbery of Newsom only, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christia n and Newsom, 20 counts of aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 Counts of theft from Christian and Newsom. Eric Boyd, 24, also arrested in connection with the fatal carjacking, only faces federal charges as an accessory after the fact. He was not indicted by Knox county grand jury. Felony Murder carries a possibility of death, life without the possibility of parole and life with parole. Especially Aggravated Robbery is a Class A felony that carries a possibility of 15 to 60 years in prison. Aggravated Rape is a Class A felony that carries a possibility of 15 to 60 years of prison. At a news conference Thursday, Nichols commended the cooperative efforts between several departments and credits that cooperation for the fast pace this case is moving through the court system. Nichols says he hopes to move the case to trial on the first day it's set. The four are expected to make their first court appearance within ten to fifteen days. This is certainly a case garnering a lot of public interest, Nichols recognizes that and says he expects all kinds of requests filed in this case, including a change of venue in order to receive a fair trial. But he says he does hope 12 Knox County jurors will be able to determine the guilt or innocence of these suspects. Where be the Revs Al and Jesse? Are they providing counsel and help to the families of the victims? Of course not - the victims were white Why hasn't this received National coverage by the news media like the Duke "rape" case? Oh, that's right - the victims were white Why hasn't the NAACP, ACLU, New York Times etc., called for an investigation? Must be cause the victims were white Why hasn't the FBI been called in to investigate this as a hate crime? Oh, t hat's right - the victims were white" victims perps So, if a white news radio jock uses the phrase "Nappy headed", it gets 2 weeks of constant news coverage. If two white people are tortured, raped, and murdered by a group of black people, it barely gets a blip in the news. Pass this around, and maybe, just maybe, it will land in the hands of someone in the media or politics, that has the b???s to stand up for the white people!!! This happened on Jan, 6, 2007 at Knoxville, Tenn.. http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp |
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#8 |
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Exactly, and illegal is illegal, they, and those who help them, are criminals.
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Franklin Pierce
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minnesota
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When 14 million people come over illegally I don't think it is a morality issue. They may be considered a criminal but to actually think most of them can not be good citizens except for the inital push here is foolish. They are being put in a lose lose situation and this is the best way to feed their families and give their kids the best chance in life.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
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Not my problem or my responsibility.
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in a mood, not cupcake
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 3,034
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Up until fairly recently, I don't think there's ever been much of an effort to control the border(s).
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#12 |
The future is unwritten
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
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Exactly, everybody ignoring the law, looking the other way, caused this shit.
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Franklin Pierce
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minnesota
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It is now that they are crossing the border.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
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I have no responsibility to figure out to to take care of them, only how to kick them out, get them registered, and get them to pay income taxs on all the money they send home before they send it.
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erika
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: "the high up north"
Posts: 6,127
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Theyre making less than minimum wage, mostly; you dont pay income tax on that anyway!
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