Students walk out during Pledge, recite own version - Page 7

lookout123 · 11-15-2007, 12:15 AM

actually i only call tw a muppet. everything he says is regurgitated from some damn script.

nothing wrong with popular mechanics. i've read some pretty interesting articles there.

queequeger · 11-15-2007, 05:27 AM

Oh, come on then. 99% of things people say are only ideas we got from someone else. There is a finite number of information in the world, and a finite number of ideas that can be formed from them. Chances are if the information you have isn't brand new (i.e. you JUST did the research like 5 minutes ago), nothing you come up with is new. In fact, you probably heard it on the news and are regurgitating it. It's just a fact of life.

Except me. I'm 100% did-it-myself original.

Aliantha · 11-15-2007, 05:46 AM

I'm glad einstein and newton didn't think there were no new ideas.

queequeger · 11-15-2007, 06:13 PM

If you're about to compare anyone in this forum to Einstein or Newton, my head might pop. Those fellows and their ideas fall into the 1%... which is actually more like .001%. I'm pretty sure the rest of us will just have to be content arguing, drinking, fucking, and watching tv. All of which I enjoy a hell of a lot.

Aliantha · 11-15-2007, 06:16 PM

yes, 99% of us are stupid and don't have an original thought in our head.

queequeger · 11-15-2007, 06:25 PM

Oh, hay-zeus christo. I'm just saying it's ridiculous to say someone is only 'regurgitating things' when that's all most of us do. You might have rearranged your ideas in a slightly different way, but it's just that, rearranging. Who in this or any discussion have you heard spout a 100% original idea?

Aliantha · 11-15-2007, 06:29 PM

There's been a few who have influenced a change in my thinking because of ideas they've presented. whether those ideas were original or not I can't say for sure.

While I agree with you for the most part, I think that there is more original thought around than you ascribe.

tw · 11-15-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

While I agree with you for the most part, I think that there is more original thought around than you ascribe.

queequeger's summary of Einstein and Newton are quite accurate. Almost everything they came up with was existing information put together in a different perspective. I believe it was Hilbert who so noted why a weaker student deserves so much praise. "He did the work'. Why are new ideas so hard to come by? So many have this massive collection of information. But it is the true genius who can merge known fact into a new perspective. So many great ideas are really nothing more than "Oh, yeah . . . ."

It is probably the largest jig saw puzzle ever attempted. Everything is there for us all to see. But which pieces can interconnect?

If what Einstein and Newton discovered was so radical, then conventional science would have rejected it completely. Why persecute Galileo? What he concluded - a perspective using existing knowledge just too radical for conventional thought - was too radical for others.

Aliantha · 11-15-2007, 08:33 PM

flaps!

tw · 11-15-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

flaps!

Cabin crew prepare for landing.

lookout123 · 11-16-2007, 09:35 AM

tw, the point i was making is not that it is wrong to take existing information, analyze it, and make a statement based on your perspective. my point about regurgitation is that you haven't come up with a new post in years. you say the exact same thing the exact same way in every thread whether it is relevent to the topic or not. why do you think people crack jokes about tw's posts being "george jr, mental midget, 7 minutes, directly traceable to the top..." is it necessarily because everyone disagrees with you? no. it is because you might as well just cut and past your canned responses from a word document. they don't change. ever. that is not critical thinking, that is rote memorization.

tw · 11-16-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

why do you think people crack jokes about tw's posts being "george jr, mental midget, 7 minutes, directly traceable to the top..."

Reality did not change just because you don't like it. Those jokes cannot be repeated enough. Truth behind each joke IS bad news for every decent person. At least we still have humor due to an American disaster created by our wacko extremists and their supporters.

George Jr is a mental midget just like Monday happens every seven days. We even sing about Monday mornings.

Quote:

Every other day, every other day,
Every other day of the week is fine, yeah
But whenever Monday comes, but whenever Monday comes
You can find me cryin' all of the time

Monday Monday, so good to me,
Monday Monday, it was all I hoped it would be
Oh Monday morning, Monday morning couldn't guarantee
That Monday evening you would still be here with me.

Does that mean the song is not original or good? Same thing was said for centuries. And yet we delightfully sign along to the diatribe.

So many disparaging comments earned by George Jr are quite original for tw since tw has never so disparaged any other politician in accuracy, content, ferocity, consistency, or history. Ask UT. UT - when was the last time (in 20 years?) that I so conspicuously identified any other political figure? Never. What is new for me is based on old, well understood facts from history.

Reality does not change only because your political agenda cannot grasp reality. Just because one did not grasp old material used by Einstein, then his work is completely original? And because it has been repeated so often, then we should never again say "E=MC squared"?

We should discuss the mental midget to the point of vomiting. How original is he? He is that dangerous to the world; based on old and well proven prnciples. He even violates principles from Military Science 101. Acknowledging this perspective and the resulting question is enormously original to George Jr supporters even though this reality is old, often repeated, and well understood. "When do we go after bin Laden?"

What makes it original? The question cannot be asked enough. And yet still George Jr supporters still fear to ask it. What is old to some is still too radical and original for George Jr supporters.

For wacko extremists, asking that question would be a major revelation. To those who have grasped this reality, asking that same question is regurgitation. Regurgitation made necessary because we are massacring our most precious treasures for the greater glory of George Jr. Is the question an original perspective - or just obvious from lessons in history? To answer, first ask yourself, "what is my perspective?" Do you yet grasp reality or instead worship a president who talks to god? Lookout123 still has not asked that question. Asking that question would be an original breakthrough for lookout123.

When do we go after bin Laden? Meanwhile, according to news reports, the Marines were asking that same question. Is that original thinking or just regurgitating what any patriotic American would ask weekly?

Quote:

I pledge alliance to the dictator,
who is the Vice President of America.
And to the republic for which is owns,
One nation, under his god, wiretapped,
with liberty and justice defined by the executive branch.

No wonder students walk out during the Pledge. Even they understand what it really means? Does that mean they are original thinkers?

lookout123 · 11-16-2007, 11:21 PM

you da man TW.

Undertoad · 11-16-2007, 10:52 AM

One of the reasons I can't wait for a new administration is because tw will have to change his puke. It'll be like new wallpaper.

Clodfobble · 11-16-2007, 11:18 AM

Barely. He's still talking about Nixon, for god's sake.

11-15-2007, 12:15 AM	#1
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	actually i only call tw a muppet. everything he says is regurgitated from some damn script. nothing wrong with popular mechanics. i've read some pretty interesting articles there. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-15-2007, 05:27 AM	#2
queequeger Hypercharismatic Telepathical Knight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The armpit of the Universe... Augusta, GA Posts: 365	Oh, come on then. 99% of things people say are only ideas we got from someone else. There is a finite number of information in the world, and a finite number of ideas that can be formed from them. Chances are if the information you have isn't brand new (i.e. you JUST did the research like 5 minutes ago), nothing you come up with is new. In fact, you probably heard it on the news and are regurgitating it. It's just a fact of life. Except me. I'm 100% did-it-myself original. __________________ Hoocha, hoocha, hoocha... lobster.

11-15-2007, 05:46 AM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I'm glad einstein and newton didn't think there were no new ideas. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-15-2007, 06:13 PM	#4
queequeger Hypercharismatic Telepathical Knight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The armpit of the Universe... Augusta, GA Posts: 365	If you're about to compare anyone in this forum to Einstein or Newton, my head might pop. Those fellows and their ideas fall into the 1%... which is actually more like .001%. I'm pretty sure the rest of us will just have to be content arguing, drinking, fucking, and watching tv. All of which I enjoy a hell of a lot. __________________ Hoocha, hoocha, hoocha... lobster.

11-15-2007, 06:16 PM	#5
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	yes, 99% of us are stupid and don't have an original thought in our head. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-15-2007, 06:25 PM	#6
queequeger Hypercharismatic Telepathical Knight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The armpit of the Universe... Augusta, GA Posts: 365	Oh, hay-zeus christo. I'm just saying it's ridiculous to say someone is only 'regurgitating things' when that's all most of us do. You might have rearranged your ideas in a slightly different way, but it's just that, rearranging. Who in this or any discussion have you heard spout a 100% original idea? __________________ Hoocha, hoocha, hoocha... lobster.

11-15-2007, 06:29 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	There's been a few who have influenced a change in my thinking because of ideas they've presented. whether those ideas were original or not I can't say for sure. While I agree with you for the most part, I think that there is more original thought around than you ascribe. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-15-2007, 08:33 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	flaps! __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-16-2007, 09:35 AM	#11
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	tw, the point i was making is not that it is wrong to take existing information, analyze it, and make a statement based on your perspective. my point about regurgitation is that you haven't come up with a new post in years. you say the exact same thing the exact same way in every thread whether it is relevent to the topic or not. why do you think people crack jokes about tw's posts being "george jr, mental midget, 7 minutes, directly traceable to the top..." is it necessarily because everyone disagrees with you? no. it is because you might as well just cut and past your canned responses from a word document. they don't change. ever. that is not critical thinking, that is rote memorization. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-16-2007, 11:21 PM	#13
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	you da man TW. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-16-2007, 10:52 AM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	One of the reasons I can't wait for a new administration is because tw will have to change his puke. It'll be like new wallpaper.

11-16-2007, 11:18 AM	#15
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Barely. He's still talking about Nixon, for god's sake.

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