Lame newbies lately - Page 9

LJ · 11-20-2007, 09:09 AM

as well you should.

again.....and again...and again.....people are compelled to enter an argument to tell people to stop arguing...and then proceed to argue about the right or appropriateness of expressing their opinion about the argument.

I think that's great....seriously...I'm not asking anyone to stop arguing...I LIKE arguments. especially when they get really nasty and twisted. you learn so much about people when theyre at their worst.

Everyone has the right to express how they feel about what goes on in the cellar. The worst thing they can do is NOT speak up. If everyone did that, we'd have .......

nothing...

ZenGum · 11-20-2007, 09:31 AM

Reply to LJ:
Well in that case ....
I sympathize with Mockingbird. If I walked into a real coffee shop where everyone was calling each other rude names and throwing put-downs around, I wouldn't stay long. There is some great humor here and I've learned a thing or two too. But some of the spite threads really suck.
I'm working on a theory that they mostly happen when people are bored. There haven't been too many good new threads in the last few days, and people ended up here.
I don't favor ostracizing people though, except in super-extreme cases. I think the general social criticism is enough to pull most problem-people back into line. This thread illustrates how sniping escalated until it went too far, and prompted criticism from not just the participants but quite a few bystanders as well. I don't think that line will be used in seriousness for a while again. We don't need formal votes - mob disapproval seems to do the trick.

Drax · 11-20-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LJ

I LIKE arguments. especially when they get really nasty and twisted. you learn so much about people when theyre at their worst.

Well, you're the one with 11 accounts. Get into a heated debate with yerself, and let us watch. :p

ZenGum · 11-20-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Drax

Well, you're the one with 11 accounts. Get into a heated debate with yerself, and let us watch. :p

I've been wondering if TW is UG's sock puppet or vice versa. Just wondering.

lookout123 · 11-20-2007, 12:12 PM

nah, that wouldn't be logical. and emotional. that's bad, mmkay? and creative too. *shiver*

Shawnee123 · 11-20-2007, 09:32 AM

I agree that the spite threads suck. So, ignore those threads. Easy peasy japanesy. Coming in with a "hey yeah, that guy DOES suck. Let's take action" solves nothing.

Shawnee123 · 11-20-2007, 09:35 AM

Oh, I'm an idiot, mock. Please say it over and over again until it sinks into my pretty little head.

I'll say this again: DON'T LOOK AT THE THREADS THAT MAKE YOU SAD.
It's just that simple.

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I'm not just 'trying to help', I'm trying to get rid of them because they annoy the shit out of me and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

IGNORE THEM. This brings me back to my original question. Who appointed you Grand Poobah of all that is right and good for the Cellar?

Mockingbird · 11-20-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Oh, I'm an idiot, mock. Please say it over and over again until it sinks into my pretty little head.

I'll say this again: DON'T LOOK AT THE THREADS THAT MAKE YOU SAD.
It's just that simple.

IGNORE THEM. This brings me back to my original question. Who appointed you Grand Poobah of all that is right and good for the Cellar?

Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away. And, fuck, once AGAIN no one appointed me anything, I'm just saying how I think it should be done. If ignoring is working for you (and since we're having this conversation it obviously isn't) then go for it. It doesn't work for me.

Shawnee123 · 11-20-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mockingbird

Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away. And, fuck, once AGAIN no one appointed me anything, I'm just saying how I think it should be done. If ignoring is working for you (and since we're having this conversation it obviously isn't) then go for it. It doesn't work for me.

I am completely happy. You are making me laugh. This is just a happy debate, eh?

I say we gun them all down! I'm the decider!

ZenGum · 11-20-2007, 09:46 AM

"You are a diseeeze. I am da cure." [/stallone]

LJ · 11-20-2007, 09:39 AM

we had a vote...did you miss it?

back to you, sir.

LJ · 11-20-2007, 09:45 AM

you two are ruining this argument thread with your agrument, ya know.

it's very hurtful to me

Shawnee123 · 11-20-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LJ

it's very hurtful to me

Sorry, LJ! There, there (can't find the headpat smilie)

TheMercenary · 11-20-2007, 09:46 AM

Well just don't start voting to ban people based on popularity, I don't want to leave yet.

Shawnee123 · 11-20-2007, 09:47 AM

This is what is great about this place: we're all different and see things in sometimes completely different ways. My argument is effective whether you choose to agree or not. Corrective action? By whom? You? OK, write a report, investigate, schedule a meeting with the boss. Or just decide who belongs and who doesn't. You're apparently more than qualified.

11-20-2007, 09:31 AM	#2
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Reply to LJ: Well in that case .... I sympathize with Mockingbird. If I walked into a real coffee shop where everyone was calling each other rude names and throwing put-downs around, I wouldn't stay long. There is some great humor here and I've learned a thing or two too. But some of the spite threads really suck. I'm working on a theory that they mostly happen when people are bored. There haven't been too many good new threads in the last few days, and people ended up here. I don't favor ostracizing people though, except in super-extreme cases. I think the general social criticism is enough to pull most problem-people back into line. This thread illustrates how sniping escalated until it went too far, and prompted criticism from not just the participants but quite a few bystanders as well. I don't think that line will be used in seriousness for a while again. We don't need formal votes - mob disapproval seems to do the trick. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-20-2007, 12:12 PM	#5
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	nah, that wouldn't be logical. and emotional. that's bad, mmkay? and creative too. shiver __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-20-2007, 09:46 AM	#10
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	"You are a diseeeze. I am da cure." [/stallone] __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-20-2007, 09:46 AM	#14
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Well just don't start voting to ban people based on popularity, I don't want to leave yet. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

11-20-2007, 09:09 AM	#1
LJ i am myself Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: via blackberry, maybe Posts: 750	as well you should. again.....and again...and again.....people are compelled to enter an argument to tell people to stop arguing...and then proceed to argue about the right or appropriateness of expressing their opinion about the argument. I think that's great....seriously...I'm not asking anyone to stop arguing...I LIKE arguments. especially when they get really nasty and twisted. you learn so much about people when theyre at their worst. Everyone has the right to express how they feel about what goes on in the cellar. The worst thing they can do is NOT speak up. If everyone did that, we'd have ....... nothing...

11-20-2007, 09:32 AM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I agree that the spite threads suck. So, ignore those threads. Easy peasy japanesy. Coming in with a "hey yeah, that guy DOES suck. Let's take action" solves nothing.

11-20-2007, 09:39 AM	#11
LJ i am myself Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: via blackberry, maybe Posts: 750	we had a vote...did you miss it? back to you, sir.

11-20-2007, 09:45 AM	#12
LJ i am myself Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: via blackberry, maybe Posts: 750	you two are ruining this argument thread with your agrument, ya know. it's very hurtful to me

11-20-2007, 09:47 AM	#15
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	This is what is great about this place: we're all different and see things in sometimes completely different ways. My argument is effective whether you choose to agree or not. Corrective action? By whom? You? OK, write a report, investigate, schedule a meeting with the boss. Or just decide who belongs and who doesn't. You're apparently more than qualified.

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