The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Politics
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Politics Where we learn not to think less of others who don't share our views

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-19-2008, 02:19 PM   #1
lookout123
changed his status to single
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Right behind you. No, the other side.
Posts: 10,308
is he the only candidate to say some stupid shit?

__________________
Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin
lookout123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 03:09 PM   #2
Radar
Constitutional Scholar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 4,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by aimeecc View Post
I think the Dems are going to lose either way.
The Dems will win no matter what. They could have video of Obama doing Clinton with 2 girlscouts and a boyscout on a pile of crack cocaine while taking a crap on the American flag and McCain still would have absolutely no chance. Keep in mind that double the number of Americans have voted for Obama than McCain and that's just half of the Democratic Party.

America is sick to death of Republicans. They are even more fiscally irresponsible and dishonest than Democrats...which I thought couldn't be done.

Nothing the Democrats do will prevent them from winning, and nothing the Republicans do will prevent them from failing.
__________________
"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
- George Carlin
Radar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 03:15 PM   #3
lookout123
changed his status to single
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Right behind you. No, the other side.
Posts: 10,308
6 words: dead girl or a live boy
__________________
Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin
lookout123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 03:51 PM   #4
Flint
Snowflake
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 13,136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radar View Post
The Dems will win no matter what.
Not if everyone walks around saying the Dems will win no matter what.
__________________
******************
There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there
it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your
expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever
gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio
Flint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 01:01 PM   #5
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
We thought Clinton would screw up the economy. We were wrong.
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 01:20 PM   #6
piercehawkeye45
Franklin Pierce
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,695
Obama was just covering his ass, his target audience was quite obvious.

The speech was nice but I think it lacked major depth. He mentioned many times of the problems we have in our society but nothing of how to solve them or the sacrifices needed to solve them. Yes, a unified America is needed for change but the civil rights movement would never have happened if people weren't attacked by police dogs and soaked with fire hoses on a regular basis.

He said that a disparity exists between white and black schools, but the solution he even hinted at was that whites will start having to fund black schools, which I don't think will work.
__________________
I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.
piercehawkeye45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 01:48 PM   #7
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 View Post
He said that a disparity exists between white and black schools, but the solution he even hinted at was that whites will start having to fund black schools, which I don't think will work.
Actually, ideas to do just that at the state level have been floated. There has been a lot of tinkering with property taxes for "clean and green" (PA's version) and property tax relief for farmers and retirees. This shifting burden pisses people off. I could see it sneaking through in the form of state taxes combined with property taxes so rich people can still get better schools and the poor get minimum funding. Of course this moves us further toward ending locally controlled school, but the Kennedite/Busherian ultra-nationalists already support that. (I'm having fun with words here but srysl that style funding is not out of the question.)
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 03:23 PM   #8
Radar
Constitutional Scholar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 4,006
The Dems wouldn't lose if Obama was having a 3-way with both.
__________________
"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
- George Carlin
Radar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 03:28 PM   #9
Clodfobble
UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 20,012
Wow. How will you ever handle the cognitive dissonance if it turns out you're wrong? As I recall, you were pretty damn sure there was no way Kerry could lose either.
Clodfobble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 03:33 PM   #10
Radar
Constitutional Scholar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 4,006
He would have won if it weren't for Diebold. This time even they can't help the Republicans. There are just too many people. The voter turnout for Democrats is higher than it's been in 30 years.
__________________
"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
- George Carlin
Radar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 03:36 PM   #11
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
dead girls never hurt Dems before
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 07:46 AM   #12
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radar View Post
He would have won if it weren't for Diebold.
More Conspiracy BS without basis for fact.
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 02:07 PM   #13
Radar
Constitutional Scholar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 4,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMercenary View Post
More Conspiracy BS without basis for fact.
As usual, you couldn't find your ass with both hands and a map.

You got it right in that it was a conspiracy, but you're wrong about the facts. You might want to watch the movie "Hacking Democracy" or visit Bev Harris's website http://www.blackboxvoting.org
__________________
"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
- George Carlin
Radar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 05:04 PM   #14
TheMercenary
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
Posts: 21,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radar View Post
As usual, you couldn't find your ass with both hands and a map.

You got it right in that it was a conspiracy, but you're wrong about the facts. You might want to watch the movie "Hacking Democracy" or visit Bev Harris's website http://www.blackboxvoting.org
More BS. A movie some Bush hater makes for some dumb ass with an agend does not make if fact no matter how hard you get when you read it.
__________________
Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!
TheMercenary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2008, 03:39 PM   #15
Radar
Constitutional Scholar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 4,006
live boys haven't hurt the Republicans either.
__________________
"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
- George Carlin
Radar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:51 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.