Nirvana Philosophy - Page 2

Aliantha · 05-13-2008, 10:43 PM

Do you have to be Christian to be enlightened?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-13-2008, 10:44 PM

Certainly not, but the double belly buttons feel they are, in spades.

Aliantha · 05-13-2008, 10:49 PM

And what's a double belly button?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-13-2008, 10:54 PM

Reborn.

Aliantha · 05-13-2008, 11:00 PM

Right. My post wasn't about christianity though, or god or any religion. I'm not sure that you have to be religious to be enlightened or to be aware. I'm pretty sure that's not the point of the OP. It definitely wasn't my point.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-13-2008, 11:23 PM

It was my point. A lot of people experience a warm and fuzzy glow, when the feel they are enlightened. What makes people feel they are enlightened varies widely... very widely.

Aliantha · 05-13-2008, 11:33 PM

From what I've learned about my particular brand of enlightenment, that warm glow would be associated with self satisfaction. The feeling that you've got some prize no one else knows about or is entitled to. I don't know how it would really feel. I think I'm just as fucked up as the rest of the world, but I'm almost certain you're not supposed to feel special. You're supposed to just feel love (or whatever word you want to use to describe the feeling you get from being at peace with everyone and everything).

lumberjim · 05-13-2008, 11:45 PM

feel this

Elspode · 05-14-2008, 12:32 AM

I was thinking about Tori Amos, too, but I sort of relate her with Nirvana Philosophy because she did a version of "Come As You Are" that I really enjoyed.

smoothmoniker · 05-14-2008, 11:57 AM

and again, may I add ... horshit.

I do appreciate how you managed to shoehorn a little physics in there. It makes it seem all sciency.

lookout123 · 05-14-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

We're all victims of where we've been and who we've known and what we've done.

Bullshit. You can be a victim if you want, but it's a a choice to sit around and wallow in your victimhood. How can you possibly ever expect to succeed at anything if you want to go through life as a victim? Quit being a victim and just be a person who has experienced life. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger if you let it.

Aliantha · 05-14-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Bullshit. You can be a victim if you want, but it's a a choice to sit around and wallow in your victimhood. How can you possibly ever expect to succeed at anything if you want to go through life as a victim? Quit being a victim and just be a person who has experienced life. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger if you let it.

Substitute the word victim for 'a product of' if it makes you feel better although it means the same. What's happened before makes you who you are today.

It don't really care if you agree with me or not. You can think what I'm saying is bullshit along with the rest of the people who do. It's ok even. I know you can't possibly do anything else because of where you've been and what's happened to you.

Mystic Rythm · 05-15-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

and again, may I add ... horshit.

I do appreciate how you managed to shoehorn a little physics in there. It makes it seem all sciency.

Nobody said it has anything to do with magic. Infact, this is all about higher science of realization.

classicman · 05-14-2008, 03:34 PM

We are, each of us, the combined sum total of all our individual life experiences. Therefore, we are never the same person - ever. We are in a constant state of evolution. As our experiences alter and mold us into that which we then subsequently become, we immediately continue to morph through our new and constantly occurring experiences into something else.

Are we ever really anything at all?

BS We is what we is and thats all we're ever gonna be.

Cicero · 05-14-2008, 08:17 PM

ooh...and nature vs. nurture comes out.

I'm not going to get into a "who's more buddhist" fray. Which is why I'm not buddhist anymore.
(publicly)

Good day.

Troll.

05-13-2008, 10:43 PM	#1
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Do you have to be Christian to be enlightened? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-13-2008, 10:44 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Certainly not, but the double belly buttons feel they are, in spades. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-13-2008, 10:49 PM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	And what's a double belly button? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-13-2008, 10:54 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Reborn. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-13-2008, 11:00 PM	#5
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Right. My post wasn't about christianity though, or god or any religion. I'm not sure that you have to be religious to be enlightened or to be aware. I'm pretty sure that's not the point of the OP. It definitely wasn't my point. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-13-2008, 11:23 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It was my point. A lot of people experience a warm and fuzzy glow, when the feel they are enlightened. What makes people feel they are enlightened varies widely... very widely. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-13-2008, 11:33 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	From what I've learned about my particular brand of enlightenment, that warm glow would be associated with self satisfaction. The feeling that you've got some prize no one else knows about or is entitled to. I don't know how it would really feel. I think I'm just as fucked up as the rest of the world, but I'm almost certain you're not supposed to feel special. You're supposed to just feel love (or whatever word you want to use to describe the feeling you get from being at peace with everyone and everything). __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-13-2008, 11:45 PM	#8
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	feel this __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

05-14-2008, 12:32 AM	#9
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I was thinking about Tori Amos, too, but I sort of relate her with Nirvana Philosophy because she did a version of "Come As You Are" that I really enjoyed. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

05-14-2008, 11:57 AM	#10
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	and again, may I add ... horshit. I do appreciate how you managed to shoehorn a little physics in there. It makes it seem all sciency. __________________ to live and die in LA

05-14-2008, 03:34 PM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	We are, each of us, the combined sum total of all our individual life experiences. Therefore, we are never the same person - ever. We are in a constant state of evolution. As our experiences alter and mold us into that which we then subsequently become, we immediately continue to morph through our new and constantly occurring experiences into something else. Are we ever really anything at all? BS We is what we is and thats all we're ever gonna be. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

05-14-2008, 08:17 PM	#15
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	ooh...and nature vs. nurture comes out. I'm not going to get into a "who's more buddhist" fray. Which is why I'm not buddhist anymore. (publicly) Good day. Troll. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

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