What is pissing you off this time? - Page 34

it · 01-08-2012, 05:27 PM

yes it is...

i am also a little pissed at danaC, who decided to be wise and explain to me why there's nothing i can do about it which wouldn't hurt the boy more then it has any chance of doing good by him... but she's awesome (and right) so meh, i'll let it slide.

Aliantha · 01-08-2012, 05:31 PM

Well, maybe there are things you can do, but you'd have to talk to you lawyer about that, or maybe after the dust settles a little, she'll realise that it would be good for him to see you? You never know what the future holds, but I guess the best thing you can do is get yourself settled and in a good frame of mind so you're ready for whatever does happen.

it · 01-08-2012, 06:01 PM

i did talk to a lawyer - well, an uncle whose a lawyer there. we didn't went through the adoption papers because we wanted to finish the immigration process first... so i can't get full or even shared custody.

as far as changing her mind, maybe. i'm not holding my breath though. what once seemed like attractive inner strength has since revealed itself to be extreme stubborness and often baseless pride that defines nearly all her actions. i am not closing the window on that one, but not going to spend my days looking through it.

moving on with my life is rationaly the only course of action i have, its just not... not very easy.

p.s.
danaC, please don't tell my xwife any of this or link her here. i would rather she still thinks i am at least considering a legal course of action so that she's hasitant to start a legal war.

plthijinx · 01-12-2012, 01:22 PM

I'm about to pull my f@%king hair out!

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classicman · 01-12-2012, 01:43 PM

I dunno squat about computers, but googling those errors gave a bunch of hits.

plthijinx · 01-12-2012, 01:45 PM

yeah i've done the same. went with what Perry said in the tech thread. i either need a higher version of AutoCad or have win7 replaced with xp.

anonymous · 02-24-2012, 08:40 PM

Hey it's me. I can't fucking believe this shit and I can't really be completely frank about this so I will change up the details a lot. The industry has been changed

I get this letter that a movie company wants to use a bunch of my songs as part of the soundtrack to a movie. They want worldwide, eternal, derivative, and just about every other right that can be gotten for about 25 songs. As compensation they want to give me a copy of the DVD of the movie when it comes out.

This is a professional movie company and a hot shot director, and I am a professional songwriter. WTF?

I wrote the agent a super sarcastic letter that I am tempted to send. Fans of my prose will recognize it as my work.

Quote:

Wow, a DVD!
What can I say? I am blown away, dude; that is awesome. I don’t remember the last time I was offered such generous compensation for my work. I’m going to guess it was in 1973, just before my 13th birthday, when the superintendant of my building gave me $5.00 to write a jingle about the building as a retirement memento for him. Did it matter to me that the five bucks he offered barely covered the cost of reel o reel tape? Of course not, I was getting paid! And adjusting for inflation, your offer nearly matches my former superintendant’s offer, especially if I were to order the DVD from Amazon.
I am tickled pink that after nearly 40 years practicing music composition, almost 30 of them professionally, I’ve come full circle in terms of compensation! To think what nit-wits my clients have been all these years paying me standard licensing fees, had they only known that I could be had for the price of a large pizza and a six pack of domestic beer. And for a limited license no less, not the world-wide, eternal, multi-media, unlimited iteration license you are asking for. How foolish of them to have paid so dearly for so little.
However, this is no time for me to gloat over past victories, no I must address your offer with all the seriousness and gravitas that you have presented to me.
Yeah, I’m gonna have to say thanks but no thanks, I’ll live without my sons appearing in XXXX's movie, I’ll buy the DVD myself from Amazon, and I already know how to title of the movie.
Thanks for thinking of me.
Sincerely,
anon

ZenGum · 02-24-2012, 09:49 PM

You should send that.

Oh and, ehem, completely anonymous poster, drop by more often. You are cool and interesting.

Undertoad · 02-25-2012, 06:13 AM

This is bullshit, DVDs are obsolete. Hold out for the Blu-Ray.

Griff · 02-25-2012, 06:59 AM

maybe hold out for some some nice promotional materials as well... a poster or a hat...

Send the letter.. jerks.

Undertoad · 02-25-2012, 07:35 AM

It's some lawyer in the company who has learned at weasel school that there is no harm in ASKING someone to sell their work cheaply; this is how they operate.

So the more I think about it the more I think, don't dare send that. Give them a good vibe about the use of your work but don't sign anything; allow time to proceed, and do everything you can to make them feel like this is a certainty;

Only at the last minute do you suggest that their offer is not quite good enough and that you will need to retain all publishing rights.

If they believe they can use your material, perhaps they will mistakenly invest time and money and creativity into the project with the assumption that no changes will have to be made. Perhaps at that point it will be cheaper to do the right thing.

It's a chance anyway

Griff · 02-25-2012, 07:39 AM

I was thinking similarly, but more that they go so low that it isn't worth anom's time/money to have his lawyer take up the negotiation. What is really needed is a counter-offer well within the industry standard in full legalese.

footfootfoot · 02-25-2012, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

I was thinking similarly, but more that they go so low that it isn't worth anom's time/money to have his lawyer take up the negotiation. What is really needed is a counter-offer well within the industry standard in full legalese.

yeah, that's the more sane/ sober thing to do, especially if the project is finished and already being marketed with a pending release date...

you know, in theory

BigV · 02-25-2012, 03:46 PM

I like the golden rule strategy. If you don't want to be lowballed or slowwalked, don't do it. If you want a fair price for good work, say so.

sexobon · 02-25-2012, 04:43 PM

Send a reply; but, keep it short and sweet to let them know that as a business person you don't want your time wasted. You can say something like: Thank you for your artistic interest in my work. Feel free to contact me again should you develop a serious business interest.

01-08-2012, 05:31 PM	#2
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well, maybe there are things you can do, but you'd have to talk to you lawyer about that, or maybe after the dust settles a little, she'll realise that it would be good for him to see you? You never know what the future holds, but I guess the best thing you can do is get yourself settled and in a good frame of mind so you're ready for whatever does happen. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-12-2012, 01:22 PM	#4
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	I'm about to pull my f@%king hair out! FATAL ERROR: Unhandled e06d7363h Exception at 75acd36fh 01/12/2012 at 11:33:28.964 Drawing: ------------- FATAL ERROR: Unhandled e06d7363h Exception at 75acd36fh 01/12/2012 at 12:45:14.618 Drawing: ------------- FATAL ERROR: Unhandled e06d7363h Exception at 75acd36fh 01/12/2012 at 12:55:41.229 Drawing: ------------- FATAL ERROR: Unhandled e06d7363h Exception at 75acd36fh 01/12/2012 at 12:57:59.161 Drawing: ------------- FATAL ERROR: Unhandled e06d7363h Exception at 75acd36fh 01/12/2012 at 13:18:01.115 Drawing: ------------- FATAL ERROR: Unhandled e06d7363h Exception at 75acd36fh 01/12/2012 at 13:19:50.415 Drawing: __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

01-12-2012, 01:43 PM	#5
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I dunno squat about computers, but googling those errors gave a bunch of hits. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-12-2012, 01:45 PM	#6
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	yeah i've done the same. went with what Perry said in the tech thread. i either need a higher version of AutoCad or have win7 replaced with xp. __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

02-24-2012, 09:49 PM	#8
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	You should send that. Oh and, ehem, completely anonymous poster, drop by more often. You are cool and interesting. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

01-08-2012, 05:27 PM	#1
it Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 772	yes it is... i am also a little pissed at danaC, who decided to be wise and explain to me why there's nothing i can do about it which wouldn't hurt the boy more then it has any chance of doing good by him... but she's awesome (and right) so meh, i'll let it slide.

01-08-2012, 06:01 PM	#3
it Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 772	i did talk to a lawyer - well, an uncle whose a lawyer there. we didn't went through the adoption papers because we wanted to finish the immigration process first... so i can't get full or even shared custody. as far as changing her mind, maybe. i'm not holding my breath though. what once seemed like attractive inner strength has since revealed itself to be extreme stubborness and often baseless pride that defines nearly all her actions. i am not closing the window on that one, but not going to spend my days looking through it. moving on with my life is rationaly the only course of action i have, its just not... not very easy. p.s. danaC, please don't tell my xwife any of this or link her here. i would rather she still thinks i am at least considering a legal course of action so that she's hasitant to start a legal war.

02-25-2012, 06:13 AM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This is bullshit, DVDs are obsolete. Hold out for the Blu-Ray.

02-25-2012, 06:59 AM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	maybe hold out for some some nice promotional materials as well... a poster or a hat... Send the letter.. jerks. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-25-2012, 07:35 AM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It's some lawyer in the company who has learned at weasel school that there is no harm in ASKING someone to sell their work cheaply; this is how they operate. So the more I think about it the more I think, don't dare send that. Give them a good vibe about the use of your work but don't sign anything; allow time to proceed, and do everything you can to make them feel like this is a certainty; Only at the last minute do you suggest that their offer is not quite good enough and that you will need to retain all publishing rights. If they believe they can use your material, perhaps they will mistakenly invest time and money and creativity into the project with the assumption that no changes will have to be made. Perhaps at that point it will be cheaper to do the right thing. It's a chance anyway

02-25-2012, 07:39 AM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I was thinking similarly, but more that they go so low that it isn't worth anom's time/money to have his lawyer take up the negotiation. What is really needed is a counter-offer well within the industry standard in full legalese. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-25-2012, 03:46 PM	#14
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I like the golden rule strategy. If you don't want to be lowballed or slowwalked, don't do it. If you want a fair price for good work, say so. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-25-2012, 04:43 PM	#15
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Send a reply; but, keep it short and sweet to let them know that as a business person you don't want your time wasted. You can say something like: Thank you for your artistic interest in my work. Feel free to contact me again should you develop a serious business interest.

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