November 12, 2008: Beez - Page 2

glatt · 11-12-2008, 09:12 AM

Reminds me of this old favorite. Matthias Wandel's wasp sucking machine.

Pie · 11-12-2008, 10:25 AM

I'm still not getting the idea of using toxic pesticides ON A COOKING SURFACE!
Would you spray your pots and pans down with Raid? A little rat poison on your bruschetta?
You can't scrub down every surface of a grill; lava rocks hold on to whatever has landed on them forever.

spudcon · 11-12-2008, 12:43 PM

Perhaps bee stings are fatal to the poster. I have a friend whose grill gets infested by wasps every year. She just turns on the gas and ignites it. It's not genocide, it's killing pests that are harmful to her home family and her pets. Buncha pain in the ass bugs anyway.

Aliantha · 11-12-2008, 02:26 PM

If he'd taken the cover off, the bees would have first become very aggravated and would have attacked. It would have been an invasion of their home. After the initial shock, the bees might have moved on, but more than likely the wouldn't move too far because for starters, they need emergency housing, so anywhere dry and out of the wind is going to be good. The cavities in the walls etc make a good spot, and a lot more troublesome than a BBQ to remove. That said, I agree that calling a bee keeper would have been the smart thing to do rather than poisoning them.

Shawnee123 · 11-12-2008, 02:55 PM

The author was calling them wasps, then yellow jackets. I'm not up on my bee categories, but aren't wasps, and even yellow jackets completely different than happy little (really necessary to the earth) honey bees?

Having said that, I have a little wasp nest between my screen and window in my bathroom. I let them go in and out all summer. What do they do in the winter? Can I safely get them out? What should I do with them? That nest grew a lot over the summer, it is no longer the cute little "I'll just leave them be" nest that it started out to be.

Clodfobble · 11-12-2008, 03:17 PM

Bees are useful to the ecosystem. They are not aggressive unless provoked. Wasps (aka hornets, aka yellowjackets,) on the other hand, are demon spawn and need to be killed on sight every time.

Don't believe me?

Aliantha · 11-12-2008, 03:35 PM

I always kill wasp nests completely. Burn then smash. Those suckers are nasty and can do a lot of damage to small children if they get stuck about it. Especially paper wasps. I don't know if you have them over there, but they're very aggressive and the sting hurts like a bastard.

glatt · 11-12-2008, 03:39 PM

Yeah, but you've got to admit the paper wasp nests are really cool looking.

Aliantha · 11-12-2008, 03:43 PM

Oh for sure, but that doesn't mean I'm going to leave them there for a new lot to move into...which they do. Bastard creatures.

SPUCK · 11-12-2008, 05:08 PM

Very sad.. Bees are under extreme pressure that's not even understood. To kill a hive like that is really poor judgment.

For the poster to recognize enough bees are under there, where there would be no other point than to 'nest', and to feel there were enough to require building that weapon, shows serious ignorance. Maybe she should actually watch TV once in a while...

All she had to do was call ANY honey or bee keeper and that hive would be promptly and carefully removed for her.

Stupid.

:

If bees were to decline the only thing left of a hamburger, I'm told, would be the bun, as bees are responsible for everything else.

Sarasvati48 · 11-12-2008, 06:57 PM

How incredibly stupid. What, not enough bees are dead right now? I knew something was afoot when at the end of the summer of 2006 there were dozens of dead bees on my back patio. At first I thought they were the victims of some idiot like this person, but soon started hearing news reports of disappearing bees. They are an important part of the ecosystem, and this jackass kills them instead of calling a bee keeper. What a jackass...

Diaphone Jim · 11-12-2008, 07:11 PM

I have to go with SPUCK and Saravati.
Unless there are family members with known bee allergies or the bees are Africanized and aggressive, killing them is foolish and sad.
Paper Wasps, Yellowjackets and Hornets with nests in close proximity to human activity may need removal, but overall the kneejerk, pressurized poison reaction to BUGS is to be lamented.
BTW, that form of natural comb building is more and more used in the industry.

JLrep · 11-12-2008, 07:24 PM

Really, he should've one-upped the bees by offering them his house, as well.

monster · 11-12-2008, 08:44 PM

I find lamentably few people can distinguish between bees, wasps, and yellowjackets, and call them all bees. If this is true for the IOTD provider, I can understand their "need" to kill them.. But I don't take pictures when I'm dealing with a wasp nest. do you? something's fishy there.

Gravdigr · 11-12-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

What an unbelievably stupid act.

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Ditto. Easily available pesticides are not the best idea for anyone except the people making and selling the stuff.

I hate bees. I'm allergic to their sting. Fuck 'em. Kill 'em all & let their mommies sort 'em out. (Ditto on all counts for wasps, hornets, & anything else that stings.)

P.S. That's one big ass-load of bees...maybe you should use/check your grill a little more often?

11-12-2008, 10:25 AM	#17
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	I'm still not getting the idea of using toxic pesticides ON A COOKING SURFACE! Would you spray your pots and pans down with Raid? A little rat poison on your bruschetta? You can't scrub down every surface of a grill; lava rocks hold on to whatever has landed on them forever. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

11-12-2008, 12:43 PM	#18
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	Perhaps bee stings are fatal to the poster. I have a friend whose grill gets infested by wasps every year. She just turns on the gas and ignites it. It's not genocide, it's killing pests that are harmful to her home family and her pets. Buncha pain in the ass bugs anyway. __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

11-12-2008, 02:26 PM	#19
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	If he'd taken the cover off, the bees would have first become very aggravated and would have attacked. It would have been an invasion of their home. After the initial shock, the bees might have moved on, but more than likely the wouldn't move too far because for starters, they need emergency housing, so anywhere dry and out of the wind is going to be good. The cavities in the walls etc make a good spot, and a lot more troublesome than a BBQ to remove. That said, I agree that calling a bee keeper would have been the smart thing to do rather than poisoning them. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-12-2008, 02:55 PM	#20
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	The author was calling them wasps, then yellow jackets. I'm not up on my bee categories, but aren't wasps, and even yellow jackets completely different than happy little (really necessary to the earth) honey bees? Having said that, I have a little wasp nest between my screen and window in my bathroom. I let them go in and out all summer. What do they do in the winter? Can I safely get them out? What should I do with them? That nest grew a lot over the summer, it is no longer the cute little "I'll just leave them be" nest that it started out to be. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

11-12-2008, 03:17 PM	#21
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Bees are useful to the ecosystem. They are not aggressive unless provoked. Wasps (aka hornets, aka yellowjackets,) on the other hand, are demon spawn and need to be killed on sight every time. Don't believe me? __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

11-12-2008, 09:12 AM	#16
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Reminds me of this old favorite. Matthias Wandel's wasp sucking machine.

11-12-2008, 03:35 PM	#22
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I always kill wasp nests completely. Burn then smash. Those suckers are nasty and can do a lot of damage to small children if they get stuck about it. Especially paper wasps. I don't know if you have them over there, but they're very aggressive and the sting hurts like a bastard. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-12-2008, 03:39 PM	#23
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Yeah, but you've got to admit the paper wasp nests are really cool looking.

11-12-2008, 03:43 PM	#24
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Oh for sure, but that doesn't mean I'm going to leave them there for a new lot to move into...which they do. Bastard creatures. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-12-2008, 05:08 PM	#25
SPUCK Professor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,911	Very sad.. Bees are under extreme pressure that's not even understood. To kill a hive like that is really poor judgment. For the poster to recognize enough bees are under there, where there would be no other point than to 'nest', and to feel there were enough to require building that weapon, shows serious ignorance. Maybe she should actually watch TV once in a while... All she had to do was call ANY honey or bee keeper and that hive would be promptly and carefully removed for her. Stupid. : If bees were to decline the only thing left of a hamburger, I'm told, would be the bun, as bees are responsible for everything else.

11-12-2008, 06:57 PM	#26
Sarasvati48 Mystical Miscreant Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 46	How incredibly stupid. What, not enough bees are dead right now? I knew something was afoot when at the end of the summer of 2006 there were dozens of dead bees on my back patio. At first I thought they were the victims of some idiot like this person, but soon started hearing news reports of disappearing bees. They are an important part of the ecosystem, and this jackass kills them instead of calling a bee keeper. What a jackass...

11-12-2008, 07:11 PM	#27
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	I have to go with SPUCK and Saravati. Unless there are family members with known bee allergies or the bees are Africanized and aggressive, killing them is foolish and sad. Paper Wasps, Yellowjackets and Hornets with nests in close proximity to human activity may need removal, but overall the kneejerk, pressurized poison reaction to BUGS is to be lamented. BTW, that form of natural comb building is more and more used in the industry.

11-12-2008, 07:24 PM	#28
JLrep Recruit or Something Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4	Really, he should've one-upped the bees by offering them his house, as well.

11-12-2008, 08:44 PM	#29
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	I find lamentably few people can distinguish between bees, wasps, and yellowjackets, and call them all bees. If this is true for the IOTD provider, I can understand their "need" to kill them.. But I don't take pictures when I'm dealing with a wasp nest. do you? something's fishy there. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart Last edited by monster; 11-12-2008 at 09:06 PM.

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