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trying hard to be a better person
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One group invades another and takes what they want, including rights. The right to live in peace. The right to a heritage. The right to culture. Did they have those rights in the first place? Were they natural, or did those things evolve as time went on into something that the people took for granted till they were no longer possible? It's the group with the power that has the rights. Natural or otherwise, it matters not. If you have no power, you have no rights.
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barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
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He doesn't usually catch that.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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We have not made any restitution to anyone as far as I know.
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I know, right?
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Dana -- that's precisely it, very well stated.
Jinx -- if we did make restitution, it would probably be because the powers that be decided that this restitution was good for society in general. Oppressed people do not make good consumers for the retail industry. |
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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What restitution? we put them on reservations and gave them shit. Now some are getting payback in the form of tax free gambling houses. But I still don't see that we gave them any form of restitution.
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Come on, cat.
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They don't get any perks Merc?
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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Person who doesn't update the user title
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Remember that when you're dealing with Radar you are dealing with a man as incapable of respect as he is of compassion. At best, he finds a refuge in his tortured understanding of legalism. At worst, a clever opponent cuts him off from that refuge and exposes his crankery for all to see, which is why Radar doesn't get respect. He's too flawed as a human being, and he writes to demonstrate his flaws, whether that was his intent or not.
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barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
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Hawaii civil unions bill stalled
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If religious people wish to restrict the rights of other people based on their religion (no matter how they dress it up, "definitions of marriage", etc), then perhaps we should take another look at their tax-exempt status.
TGRR, Has made a point of being rotten to Mormons since they got involved in Prop 8.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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I don't agree with Prop 8 but they used the system to pass the ban and now if they otherside wants to fight it they will have to do the same. The other side of the coin in people who support majority rule.
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Yes, but is it really fair for people to actively campaign and influence the outcome on a state ballot when they don't live in that state? I don't think so.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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Politics is not about "fair", it is about legal.
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I had to bite my tongue in front of my parents just the other day re gay adoption. They used to have a green box in their kitchen in which they put all their loose change for St Francis Children's Homes. It's been there since I remember (a different box every year I hasten to add!) But the Church can't distribute or collect the full boxes any more, because the said charity has refused to comply to UK anti-discrimination laws. It will not allow Catholic children to be adopted by gay couples.
I'm pretty sure I've written about this before here. My parents believe it is the Govt sticking its nose into matters of faith. I believe it is the Church cutting its nose off to spite its face and is certainly NOT in the spirit of Jesus' teaching. He who broke so many taboos at the time. Not to mention of course the fact I don't believe in him and am tired of the, "this doesn't apply to me becos my God says..." reasoning. My Dad is homophobic. Growing up poor, practically uneducated (due to poor schooling post War and dyslexia) in the post Blitz East End and with a harsh father and two older brothers, it's not all that surprising. Converting to Catholicism when he met and engaged Mum only gave him another reason for his prejudice. Funnily enough, Mum, who worked in the nursing, Ambulance and Police met more gay people than a dog has fleas. She accepts them as one of the anomalies God will sort out when she gets to Heaven. And it has not affected me in any way growing up. I have had openly gay friends. And secretly gay friends. Somehow, like people with hidden or past eating disorders, people seem to realise they can confide in me. The majority decision is not always right. Democracy was never meant to suggest that. Women would not have had the vote in this country when they did if democracy meant mob rule.
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