A Modest Proposal

[lumberjim]

aliantha's inane chatter : interesting discussion

fire extinguisher : fire

[Aliantha]

Oh right, so the chat police are back.

You must be feeling better about things now then huh?

[monster]

porridge the way I can make it: yummy breakfast

this thread : life

[Sundae]

Last time I stayed in an English hotel (ie on expenses) I was offered whisky on my porridge. Then again, it was Blackpool. Mad Northerners.

Anyway, the original Modest Proposal is about eating children.
Y'all should be relieved we stuck at porridge.

[ZenGum]

How is it that thread drift is leading to breakfast cereal all of a sudden? Are we hungry?

[DanaC]

Well, I like your hair Ali!

I really don't understand PD's seeming fascination with the Cellar.

I have no desire whatsoever to forge any closer ties (comedic or otherwise) with them. Nice people I'm sure, on the whole, but they blew a storm of shit through our doors the last time they came by and left their psycho troll behind when they left.

[Kaliayev]

*sigh*

Arafelis, you're never going to be major league, if this is all you have. You might want to try 4chan, or Fanfiction.com....they're more your speed.

Originally Posted by monster

Wait what? PD feels there is some unfinished business? Or what? Why in the hell do you all care about this so much? I thought we were all pretty much agreed that we all have out good and bad points and the we should NEVER CROSS THE STREAMS? No?

You mean these streams? Oh, whoops. I hope nothing bad will happen.

Exposition: Arafelis here is a new member to PD.com who it seems has been, only semi-successfully trying to stir the the shit. Deciding this was too big a job to do alone, he decided to come here and recruit you be his lackeys in what was probably the most transparent ploy since the CIA's "exploding clam" gambit against Castro.

Naturally, you all saw through it, even if you didn't know the precise backstory.

Personally, I don't care too much per se about the relationship between PD.com and The Cellar (which is probably bad, since I'm an admin. I'm kind of like that cool teacher, who let you slack off in class, or sit where you wanted, in that respect). I come here on the occasions when I'm free and have nothing to do, and no more.

I'm pretty disappointed in Arafelis, actually. Not just because he thought you were all stupid enough to be his flunkies for no apparent reason, but because he also thought we wouldn't find this out. Its a good rule of thumb to not underestimate people.

Originally Posted by DanaC

Well, I like your hair Ali!

I really don't understand PD's seeming fascination with the Cellar.

I have no desire whatsoever to forge any closer ties (comedic or otherwise) with them. Nice people I'm sure, on the whole, but they blew a storm of shit through our doors the last time they came by and left their psycho troll behind when they left.

There isn't one. Three or four members still frequent the place on a semi-frequent basis, and AFAIK no-one else cares. As with above, I tend to let them run around and do as they please, so long as its not illegal, but I wouldn't assume this was necessarily an organized or board-wide phenomenon.

What shit was that? The sarfari? And which troll? "We" didn't collectively do anything, if individuals decided to do something, then "we" have little power over them except for the art of persuasion. You may be familiar with the concept of herding cats.

[capnhowdy]

WOW!
Administrator and ALL!
Even lets people sit where they choose!

[ZenGum]

Thanks for the info, Kaliayev.

Wait, did arafelis use the same username on both fora? hmmm.

I avoid the troll threads and flame wars, but I think folks are referring to Tiki.

I missed the safari, but I get the impression it was not a great success for either party.

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by capnhowdy

WOW!
Administrator and ALL!
Even lets people sit where they choose!

You'd be surprised how many people I have complain at me, or TGGR, or one of the other three that we should rein users in or stop them [doing that thing which is annoying them]. I know this place is pretty lax in that respect, but I felt it worth pointing out since some people don't seem to get it.

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Thanks for the info, Kaliayev.

Wait, did arafelis use the same username on both fora? hmmm.

I avoid the troll threads and flame wars, but I think folks are referring to Tiki.

I missed the safari, but I get the impression it was not a great success for either party.

No problem.

He did indeed. You suspect someone playing games by pretending to be him? He's owned up on both boards, but if that had been the case, I'd be much more impressed with what happened.

Ah. Well I think its a bit harsh referring to her as a troll. Trolling is disruption with intent, and if anything, I would say Lumberjim's continual goading of her was more intentionally disruptive. But YMMV and all that.

It didn't go brilliantly, no.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Kaliayev

Ah. Well I think its a bit harsh referring to her as a troll. Trolling is disruption with intent, and if anything, I would say Lumberjim's continual goading of her was more intentionally disruptive. But YMMV and all that.
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The first time I really noticed Tiki was when she started a shit stirring thread against Lj. My second encounter with her was when she threw my well-meant advice back in my face and told me to fuck off. Lj made several attempts to be gently humorous and even explicitly told her that he was joshing her that no actual offence was meant and it's just his sense of humour. She took that to mean he's a jerk, a bad person and had a problem with her personally. He barely had to raise his hand for her to bite it off. She seemed completely surprised and dismayed that he would wish to defend his wife when Tiki attacked her repeatedly: this was the only time as I recall that Lj got serious with her. Prior to that she was choosing (wilfully in my opinion) to take the negative from anything Lj, Undertoad, Shawnee, Jinx, Clod or indeed myself said to her. There's a very fine line between feeling attacked and playing the martyr.

That's a lot for me to say about somebody. I very rarely express such negativity about anyone on these boards, even when we've clashed. Again, I don't necessarily think she's a bad lass. She's got a lovely side to her as well. But she seemed to court drama whilst here and in doing so created a shit storm that I really didn't appreciate. Lj can be a bugger at times. But I've seen him rip someone apart whose really got to him, and that wasn't the case here. he pulled back with her time and again. Offered an olive branch on at least one occasion after the initial unpleasantness when they clashed at the start. She was unwilling to accept his goodwill and instead chose to bear a very vocal and re-occuring grudge. There are others who have done the same, and frankly I have no time for it. Once an argument is done, then let it be done.

I'm sure she's a lovely person. I certainly don't harbour any great dislike of her. I still think she's a very talented writer. But she was utterly disruptive to this board and her hostility levels were off the scale.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Kaliayev

You'd be surprised how many people I have complain at me, or TGGR...

You and that asshole can certainly go back to where you came from and quit trying to stir up shit here. We can do that on our own quite nicely. Or you can hang out and post with the rest of us.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You and that asshole can certainly go back to where you came from and quit trying to stir up shit here. We can do that on our own quite nicely. Or you can hang out and post with the rest of us.

*smiles* I don't think he's trying to stir shit. I think he's attempting to be diplomatic. Misguided but well-meant I suspect.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I don't think he's trying to stir shit. I think he's attempting to be diplomatic... well-meant I suspect.

Agreed. Accepting his POV is not that of the Cellar I think his post is reasonable and well-mannered.

I don't agree with everything written, but it's not deliberately inflammatory. At least he didn't say anything about Ali's arse.

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by DanaC

*smiles* I don't think he's trying to stir shit. I think he's attempting to be diplomatic. Misguided but well-meant I suspect.

I'm not sure how he even came to that conclusion, to be honest.

I mean, really, I could be an arrogant dickwad, if he wanted, but frankly I don't see what's in it for me.