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Originally Posted by Elspode

Didn't Beck and Fox claim 500k? Or 2 million? Or something like that. Something along the lines of "eat your heart out, MLK?"

I don't have access to Glenn's internal accounting records but he told his radio audience as well as the audience at the Kennedy Center that there was an unplanned fee, 500k or so, that was unpaid until about 2 weeks prior to the 8/28 Restoring Honor event.

The unplanned fee was reported to be for security for the crowd IIRC.

The largest cost of the event was said to be security for the guests and the crowd.

There was a link on the Beck site asking anyone that was taking a bus to DC to please register. The number of people attending adds to the cost of porta johns and security and the like.

At the start of the planning it may have only been 500k and then grown to 2 million.

I've not heard anything about Glenn disrespecting MLK and in fact he had positive message about MLK and his famous "I have a dream" speech. The message that I heard was that this specific speech ( as with many other speeches I'm sure ) was something that all of us should take to heart. That all men are created equal and that we are all entitled to have an equal chance at achieving our dream. We are not all entitled to equal outcomes ( that's the common interpretation that many people disagree with ) but we should all have an equal chance.

Going a step further, two of the books that I bought about MLK and the "I have a dream" speech that day of the rally reinforce to me personally that his message is not exactly the same as maybe some of those today are trying to teach us. Specifically that MLK was wanting to claim what was naturally his and everyone's right here in the US, equality, not to overthrow the government in favor of some different form of socialism or outright communism.

So overall, honestly, being there was uncomfortable. It was HOT and there were few places to sit down to be somewhat comfortable but I'll never forget attending even though the only way for me to hear most of what the speakers said was to see the video afterwards.

We did well. Raised a few bucks for a great cause, got us out of our routines to visit DC and learned or relearned a few things about some great people.

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[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Elspode

Didn't Beck and Fox claim 500k? Or 2 million? Or something like that. Something along the lines of "eat your heart out, MLK?"

Most I heard claimed was 180 - 200k.

[classicman]

Rally organizers, in applying for their permit, said they expected a crowd of up to 300,000. And on Sunday, after the rally, Beck himself said on Fox News that the event drew 300,000 people on the low end, and perhaps as many as 650,000 people on the high end.

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R) of Minnesota, at her own rally held on the edges of Mr. Beck's event, said, “We’re not going to let anyone get away with saying there were less than a million here today because we were witnesses.”

However, a firm hired by CBS News to estimate the crowd put attendees at between 78,000 and 96,000. The firm, AirPhotosLive.com, had three estimators go over high-resolution aerial photos of the event, and then combined the three estimates.

[TheMercenary]

I guess after the non-million man march they stopped counting. Who cares, there were a shit load of people at both events.

[morethanpretty]

Maybe it matters because Beck/Bachmann/Palin and ilk don't give a fuck about facts and just make up their own all the time? Then people like the teapartiers treat their word as gospel truth and continue to believe everything they say no matter how outrageous it is? Yeah, it fucking matters. Especially when there are over 300million Americans. 87,000 is only what? Less than 0.03% of the population I believe.

[TheMercenary]

Who cares. It's a non-issue. Unless you are Beck or obsessed with him. The guy is pretty much a bombast.

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Who cares. It's a non-issue. Unless you are Beck or obsessed with him. The guy is pretty much a bombast.

No, but my parents are obsessed with him/limbaugh/ect, which is annoying enough as it is, but then they pass these beliefs to my nanny. Which then scares her into believing shit like the death panels. She's getting older and even my mom admits that she doesn't have the same reasoning ability that she used to. It pisses me off that instead of trying to be moderate and factual, they just want to rant and rave about what they hear on these obviously biased programs. They don't have any balancing to it at all. All they're doing is scaring people, people like my nanny who should be spending her remaining years relaxing.
For fucks sake! My nanny's best friend just died in July from breast cancer. She was too young for medicare, too rich for medicaid, and too poor for insurance, therefor she had not had a breast cancer exam ever until something major happened and she had to go to the hospital. It was too late to save her life. Despite this, the lack of health care basically killing her best friend, my nanny is scared of universal health care because she thinks it would equal death panels.

Yes the assholes matter to me.

[Griff]

Well said mtp.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by morethanpretty

No, but my parents are obsessed with him/limbaugh/ect, which is annoying enough as it is, but then they pass these beliefs to my nanny. Which then scares her into believing shit like the death panels. She's getting older and even my mom admits that she doesn't have the same reasoning ability that she used to. It pisses me off that instead of trying to be moderate and factual, they just want to rant and rave about what they hear on these obviously biased programs. They don't have any balancing to it at all. All they're doing is scaring people, people like my nanny who should be spending her remaining years relaxing.
For fucks sake! My nanny's best friend just died in July from breast cancer. She was too young for medicare, too rich for medicaid, and too poor for insurance, therefor she had not had a breast cancer exam ever until something major happened and she had to go to the hospital. It was too late to save her life. Despite this, the lack of health care basically killing her best friend, my nanny is scared of universal health care because she thinks it would equal death panels.

Yes the assholes matter to me.

Sorry about your Nanny's best friend. But I don't think it has anything to do with bombastic mouth pieces. People are going to believe what they are going to believe. Hell the Dems have been selling snake oil for 18 months and people have believed it. Whatever...