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BigV · 09-10-2010, 07:50 PM

Hi Lamplighter

There were a few factors that influenced my decisions as you've seen here. A tear off is a BIG DEAL. It's a lot more work. It's a LOT more trash. I learned that a roof can be re-roofed up to twice, for a total of three layers/roofs. I'm at 3 1/2 roofs. In my case, a tear off would have taken longer and cost more and been much more difficult and much more work. Bleurgh.

But the killer was the fact that my original shake shingle roof was applied onto skip sheathing. Do you know what this is? With the roofing material off, the top of my house would look like it was covered with latticework. If I took it down that far, I would have had to put plywood decking onto the roof if I wanted to use roll roofing or even three tab shingles, since that stuff won't work over the skip sheathing. That was just TOO MUCH to contemplate. I rely on the old roofs to be my "decking". The major downside to this strategy is that it is heavy. Cedar and two old three tab rooves under the roll roofing is heavy. I am hoping it's not too heavy. We get about the same amount of snow load as you do, so I think/hope I'll be ok.

A tear off is a good, complete way to do things. But I wasn't prepared for job that big.

Lamplighter · 09-10-2010, 08:11 PM

Big, that explains a lot.
I do know what you mean about the "lattice" sheeting and the extra work of putting down plywood. Ugh.
My daughter's place already has plywood sheeting and only one layer of 3-tabs.

I helped with a tear-off of a church roof many years ago, and it was a lot of work.
But with that special tool from hardware store I'm hoping it won't be quite as bad.

We probably will go ahead with the tear-off because trimming all of those (>30 yr)
old tiles seems slower and overwhelming handwork.
I'll let you know how it goes.

squirell nutkin · 09-12-2010, 08:06 PM

V, Be sure you sell that house long before it needs a new roof. And mum's the word.

3 1/2 layers is an aweful job, but there are companies back east (I'd bet there are companies where you live) that just do tear offs. One day. Done, clean, debris removed. you are ready to go.

My BIL looked into it and it was almost as cheap as the cost of a dumpster and hiring one guy to help him.

zippyt · 09-12-2010, 09:06 PM

Come On V !!!
Put yer big boy Pants on ,
Knutt up and strip ALL that half Assed Shit OFFFFFFFF !!
deck it and Roof it !!!

Dont band Aid what Needs fixing !!!

I Know its a Pain in the ass , ( so's a drip at 2am in the winter )
And Costs more $$$ than you want ,
But it will add to the Value of yer house
And be Less of a Pain int the Ass in the long run .

squirell nutkin · 09-12-2010, 09:29 PM

I'll call you Zippy, next time I'm waffling about whether to do a job right!

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-16-2010, 12:27 PM

Watching, with much interest. Ain't never gonna be a roofer, but time was I hung some rock. Dusty sort of work.

09-10-2010, 07:50 PM	#106
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Hi Lamplighter There were a few factors that influenced my decisions as you've seen here. A tear off is a BIG DEAL. It's a lot more work. It's a LOT more trash. I learned that a roof can be re-roofed up to twice, for a total of three layers/roofs. I'm at 3 1/2 roofs. In my case, a tear off would have taken longer and cost more and been much more difficult and much more work. Bleurgh. But the killer was the fact that my original shake shingle roof was applied onto skip sheathing. Do you know what this is? With the roofing material off, the top of my house would look like it was covered with latticework. If I took it down that far, I would have had to put plywood decking onto the roof if I wanted to use roll roofing or even three tab shingles, since that stuff won't work over the skip sheathing. That was just TOO MUCH to contemplate. I rely on the old roofs to be my "decking". The major downside to this strategy is that it is heavy. Cedar and two old three tab rooves under the roll roofing is heavy. I am hoping it's not too heavy. We get about the same amount of snow load as you do, so I think/hope I'll be ok. A tear off is a good, complete way to do things. But I wasn't prepared for job that big. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-12-2010, 08:06 PM	#108
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	V, Be sure you sell that house long before it needs a new roof. And mum's the word. 3 1/2 layers is an aweful job, but there are companies back east (I'd bet there are companies where you live) that just do tear offs. One day. Done, clean, debris removed. you are ready to go. My BIL looked into it and it was almost as cheap as the cost of a dumpster and hiring one guy to help him. __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

09-12-2010, 09:06 PM	#109
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Come On V !!! Put yer big boy Pants on , Knutt up and strip ALL that half Assed Shit OFFFFFFFF !! deck it and Roof it !!! Dont band Aid what Needs fixing !!! I Know its a Pain in the ass , ( so's a drip at 2am in the winter ) And Costs more $$$ than you want , But it will add to the Value of yer house And be Less of a Pain int the Ass in the long run . __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

09-12-2010, 09:29 PM	#110
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	I'll call you Zippy, next time I'm waffling about whether to do a job right! __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

09-16-2010, 12:27 PM	#111
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Watching, with much interest. Ain't never gonna be a roofer, but time was I hung some rock. Dusty sort of work. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

09-10-2010, 08:11 PM	#107
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Big, that explains a lot. I do know what you mean about the "lattice" sheeting and the extra work of putting down plywood. Ugh. My daughter's place already has plywood sheeting and only one layer of 3-tabs. I helped with a tear-off of a church roof many years ago, and it was a lot of work. But with that special tool from hardware store I'm hoping it won't be quite as bad. We probably will go ahead with the tear-off because trimming all of those (>30 yr) old tiles seems slower and overwhelming handwork. I'll let you know how it goes.

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