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Old 12-02-2010, 07:41 AM   #1
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Its Bush's fault. No, seriously. It was during his administration that the sharing of information was decided and implemented.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:28 AM   #2
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This thread could have been a clone titled:

Yet more keen leaks one might want to share

Oh well, maybe for the next big security breach.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:29 AM   #3
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Everytime I see this thread title, I have to pee.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:37 AM   #4
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You got a wicked leak?
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:39 AM   #5
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Yeah, for like...a weeky, almost a monthy.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:05 AM   #6
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Old 12-02-2010, 03:08 PM   #7
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The soldier has access to the data via SIPR, just like any other analyst. SIPR only in a secured internet for documents/media with a SECRET or less classification. This soldier has a TS/SCI clearance requiring an in depth background check that most of the public can never pass. After getting the clearance, he is then "read-on" for access. None of this is taken lightly.

Large amounts of classified materials are posted on SIPR in order to facilitate analysis. It is the junior enlisted analyst who is tasked with datamining & preliminary link analysis or trend identification.
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:27 AM   #8
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The soldier has access to the data via SIPR, just like any other analyst. SIPR only in a secured internet for documents/media with a SECRET or less classification. This soldier has a TS/SCI clearance requiring an in depth background check that most of the public can never pass. After getting the clearance, he is then "read-on" for access. None of this is taken lightly.

Large amounts of classified materials are posted on SIPR in order to facilitate analysis. It is the junior enlisted analyst who is tasked with datamining & preliminary link analysis or trend identification.
You are right, none of this should be taken lightly. I have had a TS/SCI and in some limited cases compartmentalized access. It is not a game. All the more reason to go after Wikileaks. They are trying to hold themselves up a pseudo-news organization, which they are not, and they should not receive any such protections afforded such organizations.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:04 AM   #9
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It is not a game.
No. It's not.

The reaction from the government is pretty harsh. They have been threatening everyone with a link to Wikileaks. Just off the top of my head, there's Amazon, Paypal, and some domain registration company. I wonder exactly what was said by the government to those companies to get them to pull the plug on Wikileaks so damn fast.

Also reports that the state department is telling at least Columbia University students and Boston University students that if they read any of the Wikileaks materials, they won't be hired in the government. And also Federal government workers being told they could be fired if they read the materials too.

I can understand the US Government trying to crack down on this, but the cat is out of the bag. Threatening people who simply read the secrets is ridiculous. You can't turn on the tv or pick up the paper without seeing a story on one of the released cables.

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Old 12-06-2010, 11:24 AM   #10
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No. It's not.

The reaction from the government is pretty harsh. They have been threatening everyone with a link to Wikileaks. Just off the top of my head, there's Amazon, Paypal, and some domain registration company. I wonder exactly what was said by the government to those companies to get them to pull the plug on Wikileaks so damn fast.

Also reports that the state department is telling at least Columbia University students and Boston University students that if they read any of the Wikileaks materials, they won't be hired in the government. And also Federal government workers being told they could be fired if they read the materials too.

I can understand the US Government trying to crack down on this, but the cat is out of the bag. Threatening people who simply read the secrets is ridiculous. You can't turn on the tv or pick up the paper without seeing a story on one of the released cables.
I agree. Same goes for people who work at government facilities. I can see them not allowing you to view it at work, but only until recently was it blocked. Once it is out there, it is just out there. That approach seems quite Orwellian. The horse is out of the barn.

But I still say hunt him down and treat him as a terrorist.
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Old 12-02-2010, 03:22 PM   #11
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I go wiky leaky. 'K boss.
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Old 12-02-2010, 05:50 PM   #12
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Charge 1, UCMJ, Article 92, 4 specifications ~ downloading shit to his personal computer, and uploading unauthorized software to the network.

Charge 2, UCMJ, Article 134. 8 specifications ~ 8 exceeding authorized access, 4 gave shit to outsiders, 4 looked at shit he wasn't supposed to, and 8 bringing discredit to the Armed Forces.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:12 AM   #13
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Boy what a difference 50 years makes. About $1700 bucks worth.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:25 AM   #14
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1940 - 1973 Military Draft in effect.
Now a volunteer Army with $ + other benefits.

IMO its now a better situation, except we still "draft"
Reserves and Guard units (and their families) into combat pay.

The same sort of increases have occurred in other professions
such as medical interns where on-duty
hours are reduced and $ and benefits are increased.
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Old 12-04-2010, 05:45 PM   #15
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From the NY Times of 4 DEC 2010:
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Cables Discuss Vast Hacking by a China That Fears the Web
As China ratcheted up the pressure on Google to censor its Internet searches last year, the American Embassy sent a secret cable to Washington detailing one reason top Chinese leaders had become so obsessed with the Internet search company: they were Googling themselves. ...
Yet despite the hints of paranoia that appear in some cables, there are also clear signs that Chinese leaders do not consider the Internet an unstoppable force for openness and democracy, as some Americans believe.

In fact, this spring, around the time of the Google pullout, China’s State Council Information Office delivered a triumphant report to the leadership on its work to regulate traffic online, according to a crucial Chinese contact cited by the State Department in a cable in early 2010, ...
At least one previously unreported attack in 2008, code-named Byzantine Candor by American investigators, yielded more than 50 megabytes of e-mail messages and a complete list of user names and passwords from an American government agency, a Nov. 3, 2008, cable revealed for the first time.

... “A well-placed contact claims that the Chinese government coordinated the recent intrusions of Google systems. According to our contact, the closely held operations were directed at the Politburo Standing Committee level.” ...

For example, in 2008 Chinese intruders based in Shanghai and linked to the People’s Liberation Army used a computer document labeled “salary increase — survey and forecast” as bait as part of the sophisticated intrusion scheme that yielded more than 50 megabytes of electronic mail messages and a complete list of user names and passwords from a United States government agency that was not identified.

The cables indicate that the American government has been fighting a pitched battle with intruders who have been clearly identified as using Chinese-language keyboards and physically located in China. In most cases the intruders took great pains to conceal their identities, but occasionally they let their guard down. In one case described in the documents, investigators tracked one of the intruders who was surfing the Web in Taiwan “for personal use.”
Where is any of this secret?
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