Guns don't kill people .... - Page 9

Stormieweather · 03-23-2012, 08:39 AM

His family claims he is Latino.

glatt · 03-23-2012, 08:55 AM

This whole thing is so fucked up.

We shouldn't be trying this guy in the press. The police should have done a better investigation. One they can stand behind, and if charges were filed against him, he should have been judged by a jury of his peers. This is not the way to do it.

The shooting is suspect, but the backlash is worse. The public scrutiny should be on the police, the DA, and the law, not on Zimmerman. This is just as bad as a lynching.

wolf · 03-23-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

Imma. gonna say it just to be a troll: George Zimmerman
don't look all that " white" to me.

I know. What a racist.

He isn't. He's Hispanic. Or at least half-Hispanic.

If he were white-white instead of a deep beige, protesters would be burning down DisneyWorld.

infinite monkey · 03-23-2012, 09:08 AM

Most people who were lynched probably weren't running around shooting people.

glatt · 03-23-2012, 09:13 AM

So you think it's OK to ruin this guy's future without giving him a trial?

Remember Richard Jewell, the Atlanta Olympics bomber?

edit: How about Steven Hatfill, the anthrax poisoner?
How about that white van the DC sniper was driving around in?

Happy Monkey · 03-23-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

So you think it's OK to ruin this guy's future without giving him a trial?

"without giving him a trial" is what the protests are about.

glatt · 03-23-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

"without giving him a trial" is what the protests are about.

What's the point of a trial when under Floriduh law he's going to be found not guilty? It would be a show trial and the verdict would probably cause even more anger and possible riots.

Lamplighter · 03-23-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

What's the point of a trial when under Floriduh law he's going to be found not guilty? It would be a show trial and the verdict would probably cause even more anger and possible riots.

Federal law may come into the picture... to determine if killing Trayvon Martin violated his civil rights.
That may sound strange, I know, but it's possible with the FBI being involved.

Happy Monkey · 03-23-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

What's the point of a trial when under Floriduh law he's going to be found not guilty? It would be a show trial and the verdict would probably cause even more anger and possible riots.

If he's found not guilty because of "stand your ground", rather than some technicality or exculpatory information yet to be mentioned, it may be useful for altering the "stand your ground" law for the better.

wolf · 03-23-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

What's the point of a trial when under Floriduh law he's going to be found not guilty? It would be a show trial and the verdict would probably cause even more anger and possible riots.

Tain't necessarily so.

Listen carefully to the 911 tape, ignore the inflammatory comment for the time being.

He followed the kid around in his car.

Of course, we don't know what happened, but on it's face it would appear that a cop wannabe who made forty or so calls to 911 in the preceeding weeks and did not identify himself as Neighborhood Watch to the 911 dispatcher on this incident who told him not to follow the teen. Could he have provoked the situation that lead to the shooting?

I'm hoping to be able to listen to Michael Smerconish's show on Monday. He said today that he was going to go over the case point by point based on public information about the case. Should be interesting.

Stand Your Ground <> Stalk Through The Neighborhood.

infinite monkey · 03-23-2012, 09:21 AM

Oh, I was really just addressing the lynching comment. It's not quite the same thing.

No, he needs a trial. And if they can prove he did it without justification good for them: one less nut running around.

If they can prove he was justified then case closed.

glatt · 03-23-2012, 09:29 AM

Not quite the same, but very similar. Both are groups of people taking justice into their own hands with no regard for the law. Nobody has strung Zimmerman up in a tree yet, but I bet he doesn't feel very safe. I don't see him going out in public.

infinite monkey · 03-23-2012, 09:32 AM

No, you're right about that.

My really real feeling sounds very bad, and I don't want to voice them.

One word: Sharpton.

infinite monkey · 03-23-2012, 02:20 PM

Gun nuts are SOOOOO touchy about hurting guns' feelings.

Guns don't hurt people's feelings...PEOPLE hurt people's feelings.

Like they think we think guns are alive or something. "Oooooh, that gun is a mean one. He once shot a guy just to watch him die. Then he went to Starbucks. Ooooohhh."

It's almost as if that's the only argument they can fall back on.

footfootfoot · 03-25-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Like they think we think guns are alive or something. "Oooooh, that gun is a mean one. He once shot a guy just to watch him die. Then he went to Starbucks. Ooooohhh."

Guns don't let guns shoot at Starbucks

03-23-2012, 08:39 AM	#1
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	His family claims he is Latino. __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

03-23-2012, 08:55 AM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	This whole thing is so fucked up. We shouldn't be trying this guy in the press. The police should have done a better investigation. One they can stand behind, and if charges were filed against him, he should have been judged by a jury of his peers. This is not the way to do it. The shooting is suspect, but the backlash is worse. The public scrutiny should be on the police, the DA, and the law, not on Zimmerman. This is just as bad as a lynching.

03-23-2012, 09:08 AM	#4
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Most people who were lynched probably weren't running around shooting people.

03-23-2012, 09:13 AM	#5
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	So you think it's OK to ruin this guy's future without giving him a trial? Remember Richard Jewell, the Atlanta Olympics bomber? edit: How about Steven Hatfill, the anthrax poisoner? How about that white van the DC sniper was driving around in?

03-23-2012, 09:21 AM	#11
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Oh, I was really just addressing the lynching comment. It's not quite the same thing. No, he needs a trial. And if they can prove he did it without justification good for them: one less nut running around. If they can prove he was justified then case closed.

03-23-2012, 09:29 AM	#12
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Not quite the same, but very similar. Both are groups of people taking justice into their own hands with no regard for the law. Nobody has strung Zimmerman up in a tree yet, but I bet he doesn't feel very safe. I don't see him going out in public.

03-23-2012, 09:32 AM	#13
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	No, you're right about that. My really real feeling sounds very bad, and I don't want to voice them. One word: Sharpton.

03-23-2012, 02:20 PM	#14
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Gun nuts are SOOOOO touchy about hurting guns' feelings. Guns don't hurt people's feelings...PEOPLE hurt people's feelings. Like they think we think guns are alive or something. "Oooooh, that gun is a mean one. He once shot a guy just to watch him die. Then he went to Starbucks. Ooooohhh." It's almost as if that's the only argument they can fall back on.

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