I don't have a dog in this fight, but...

[tw]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

I was thinking that when McCain picked Palin.

McCain ran as a moderate. Much of his support came from Republican and independent moderates. But to obtain party support for the final campaign, McCain had to make a deal with the devil. His replacement campaign chief was Steve Schmidt - previously employed in Cheney's office. Schmidt eliminated many of McCain's VP considerations from the list as too moderate. And then added Palin.

We know what happened to the McCain campaign as it slowly alienated moderates. Then extremists threatened McCain's AZ Senate reelection. Forcing McCain to talk like an extremist.

Romney has the same problem. He must preach to extremists (ie tea party) while begging for moderate support. Flip flopping is almost impossible to avoid.

Meanwhile, Limbaugh is still taking cheap shots at McCain. Still calling McCain too liberal.

[Lamplighter]

Truly unfortunate, but Herman Cain's campaign is going to be getting
some very bad publicity... a la Clarence Thomas.

Politico
10/30/11
Exclusive: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

During Herman Cain’s tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association
in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and
senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain,
ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.
<snip>
In one case, POLITICO has seen documentation describing the allegations and
showing that the restaurant association formally resolved the matter.
Both women received separation packages that were in the five-figure range.

I'm disappointed that this sort of crap has to show up again because
I'm sure the media will be all over it for weeks to come.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by classicman

I'm beginning to think that some Republicans would rather lose the election and bitch about everything Obama does for another 4 years instead.
At least they wouldn't have to be responsible.

What makes you think they feel they need to lose to do that?

[classicman]

Good maybe he, Santorum, Bachmann and Gingrich will step away.

I know they are all trying to stay through the primary in Jan, but its ridiculous to have so many at a debate. You cannot ask 7-9 people to answer the same question.
Its stoopit.

[Lamplighter]

I said in my post above that I am disappointed this sort of crap has come up again.

Herman Cain is playing this episode in the dumbest way possible.
Feigning vague memory, ambiguous statements, weasel words,
and denials that sound a lot like "...what is is is."
Today he is providing minute details of what were vague memories only two days ago.

Chicago Tribute
Nov 1, 2011

Face the questions, Mr. Cain

'Nuff said. Herman Cain hopes, maybe even believes,
that he can dispatch troublesome questions about sexual harassment
allegations by refusing to answer them.
The Republican presidential candidate says the charges are "totally false"
and that's all anyone needs to know. Next question.
Sorry, Mr. Cain, but America isn't ready to go back to talking about your 9-9-9 tax plan.
<snip>

Sexual harassment claims are unfortunately not rare.
It's not unusual for them to be resolved without any determination on the merits.
Financial settlements and confidentiality agreements are common.
But Herman Cain didn't sign a no-disclosure agreement —
remember, he didn't even know there was a settlement.
Cain is free to rebut the allegations. If he wants to stay in the race, he will.

The questions aren't going to go away. Answer them.

Personally, I don't care a whit about Cain's candidacy,
and have always doubted he would become the Republican nominee.
But, my belief is total that his "999 tax plan" is so flawed and unworkable,
that a full and complete discussion would put his sort of foolishness to rest once and for all.

As it is, if Cain is forced out of the race now, that discussion probably would not happen,
and we will hear of 999 again and again and ...

[classicman]

I think the 9-9-9 will die with him. It's stupid, decreases revenue and punishes those who deserve it the least.

[Lamplighter]

Well, it has started, just as predicted....

MSNBC.com
By STEVEN R. HURST
11/1/11
Key conservative voices rally to Cain
'It's outrageous the way liberals treat a black conservative,' fumes pundit Ann Coulter

WASHINGTON*— The sexual harassment allegations engulfing
the candidacy of Republican Herman Cain dominated American politics Tuesday
as prominent conservative voices rallied to his side,
saying he was a victim of a "high-tech lynching."

The forceful early reaction to the Cain firestorm
— fueled by racially charged rhetoric —
suggests the Georgia businessman's attempt to cast himself
as a victim of the news media and liberals is, so far, paying dividends
among his conservative Republican base who will hold considerable
sway in selecting the party's nominee.
<snip>
Supporters were quick to liken Cain's latest troubles to those that
roiled the nomination of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas,
another prominent black conservative, who faced sexual harassment allegations
during his explosive Senate confirmation hearing two decades ago.

The head of the conservative Media Research Center, Brent Bozell
labeled the story a "high-tech lynching," evoking
Thomas' divisive Supreme Court confirmation hearings two decades ago,
where he was confronted with sexual harassment allegations
from a one-time employee, Anita Hill.

"— fueled by racially charged rhetoric —" ????

In all the media reports I've read about Cain's current problems,
this is the first (only) one I've seen that attributes anything to his race.

It's all the fault of the news media and those damn liberals.
.

[classicman]

Bah - MSNBC ...
The guy should step aside and go sell his books.
Heck they probably taste better than his pizza.

[infinite monkey]

'It's outrageous the way liberals treat a black conservative,' fumes cunthead Ann Coulter

Fixed that for them.

[classicman]

Bahahahahah - - THAT needed a spit warning.

[DanaC]

hahahaha

Nicely done Infi.

[classicman]

Cain who? ... He's done.
It took a little more than my 15 minute prediction though.

A veteran Republican pollster and former NRA employee said Wednesday morning that Herman Cain sexually harassed a woman at an Arlington, Va., restaurant in the late 1990s.

Chris Wilson, now the principal of an Oklahoma-based GOP consulting firm, said in an interview on Oklahoma City's KTOK radio station that the episode took place in the neighborhood where Cain kept an apartment when he headed the restaurant trade group.

"This occurred at a restaurant in Crystal City (Virginia), and everybody was aware of it," Wilson said on the station. "It was only a matter of time because so many people were aware of what took place, so many people were aware of her situation, the fact she left — everybody knew with the campaign that this would eventually come up."

In an interview with POLITICO, Wilson said he was present for the episode and that it took place in the late '90s.

Wilson declined to say specifically what Cain said or did to the woman, but that the CEO's actions made other individuals at the table uneasy.

"It was very uncomfortable," said the pollster, recalling that other individuals present asked Cain to stop.

Wilson said there were at least three other people at the gathering but wouldn't share the name of the woman for publication.

Read more:

[Lamplighter]

Classic, your link has two other links.
One seems to be Cain making a false accusation about who leaked the story.
The other is yet another incident of Cain saying something inappropriate to a radio station staffer.

It's getting to be almost like the Nixon/Times fiasco... drip... drip... drip

[TheMercenary]

Did Herman squirt his DNA on a blue dress while in the White House?

Did he cheat on his high profile wife, currently the Secretary of State?

Did Herman shoot his load on one of his employees?

Is there any duplicity in these attacks?

Did Herman stick a cigar up a woman's vagina?

Did Herman get accused of RAPE?

A former President Bill Clinton did all of that. And he was a Demoncrat.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Did Herman squirt his DNA on a blue dress while in the White House?

Did he cheat on his high profile wife, currently the Secretary of State?

Did Herman shoot his load on one of his employees?

Is there any duplicity in these attacks?

Did Herman stick a cigar up a woman's vagina?

Did Herman get accused of RAPE?

A former President Bill Clinton did all of that. And he was a Demoncrat.

None of us know because the settlement contained a non disclosure agreement. Do you know the answer to any of these questions? I think Cain has drawn so much of the worst kind of attention to himself in this imbroglio. He *acts* guilty by the way he's changed his story, by the way he's parsed words "I'm not saying I didn't sign it, I'm saying I don't recall signing any settlement." etc etc. The last time I heard this kind of response was from my eight year old trying to get out of punishment for not taking out the trash. "I am not saying I didn't take it out, I'm saying I don't remember if I took it out."

FFS. You have children. Don't you recognize this voice, this uncomfortable squirming? If he did it, he should man the fuck up and say so. If he did not, he should man the fuck up and say so. He's had ten days BEFORE the story broke to get his shit together. ****THIS**** constitutes his shit being together?

Not good, not good at all.