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I appreciated Merc's POV, not so much the spirit in which it was presented.
I appreciate Ibby's POV, not so much the spirit in which it's presented. Two peas of a pod, just from opposite ends. You'd better hide; or, I'll tickle you! |
12-01-2012, 09:24 PM | #47 |
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What the hell are you two doing behind that couch?
Can I watch.
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I missed the original interaction, so I'm just talking theoretical possibilities here.
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12-01-2012, 10:35 PM | #50 |
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I don't think anyone is saying that they hate Ibby. They're just saying his attitude is not right.
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12-01-2012, 11:02 PM | #51 |
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If it's the confrontation that matters, with or without a victory; then, the unredeemable bad guy who presents that opportunity is actually doing the other a favor by enabling that person to influence multiple others into not becoming bad guys. So there WAS a method to his madness in that Merc was just trying to help Ibby indirectly all along. That Merc was genius enough to do this without having to undergo change himself was just icing on the cake. Thanks for explaining it.
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12-01-2012, 11:41 PM | #52 |
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her attitude.
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For the record, I was not suggesting that Ibs allow bigoted comments to go unchallenged. If Merc were here now and made a bigoted comment, I imagine I'd be in the queue to slam that comment down.
But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about maintaining hostilities with another member on the boards. And we're talking about one member going out of their way to deliberately make the board unwelcoming to another member on any terms. However understandable the enmity I don't like that. I didn't like it when Merc was seemingly following Ibs round the board and posting nasty stuff, and I don't like it the other way around. There's a time and a place for tackling bigotry, and it's when the bigotry is expressed. I miss Merc. For all his flaws (as we all have) he added something to the board. Sometimes what he added was unpleasant, and sometimes what he added was enlightening or fun. But he was part of the Cellar and not just in a two dimensional political debate way. he was part of it enough for some of us to see past the abrasive and occasionally nasty stuff to the decent bloke underneath. Nobody is all good, and nobody is all bad. Merc has his flaws, but he also has admirable qualities. One of which was a tendency, when the shit hit the fan, to go off and consider the situation and just occasionally, hold up his hand and admit something was his fault and that what he had said was unacceptable. But realy this thread wasn;t started as an assessment of Merc's flaws and qualities. It was just a call out, if he's reading, that he is missed. Not by everybody. But by some. Like any of us really.
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12-02-2012, 08:11 AM | #59 |
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Only his/her/neosexual/noncisgender/trans/tranny/whatever's own bigoted comments.
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