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Old 05-09-2011, 01:28 PM   #136
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Oh heck, I messed up. Is that a red card?
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:29 PM   #137
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Ahahahahaha.

Very good.



[eta] damn. The pre-edit post was funnier.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:33 PM   #138
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[eta] damn. The pre-edit post was funnier.
Sorry, I'm a compulsive editor. I questioned whether the additional "paraphrase" reference was repetitive.

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You may have made yourself perfectly clear but you're making yourself clear on a tangential point.
Then I haven't made myself clear. It isn't a tangential point. It is a solution to all of the problems that have been discussed.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:44 PM   #139
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Then I haven't made myself clear. It isn't a tangential point. It is a solution to all of the problems that have been discussed.
On that I am afraid we will have to agree to differ.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:45 PM   #140
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Because of the nature of the lefty pack here,
You've made that reference twice, now. Do you mean that Liberals think as one, or that Liberals gang up on an individual?
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:59 PM   #141
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the lefty horde "gang up" to silence the voices of reason
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:06 PM   #142
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I've never had any interactions with UG, but I do get a good laugh out of his posts.

I guess I wasnt clear enough. In my experience, Mercenary is the primary instigator and the one who has two sets of rules, one for himself and one for those who challenge his opinions with their own.
I get fed up with Merc's disrespectful treatment of other posters and the way he posts long cut and pastes. I often skip his replies. However, I have communicated with Merc through PM's and he did me a kindness once. Perhaps, because of these things, he doesn't respond to me as virulently as he does to other dwellers. At any rate, this shows he can be civilized when he feels like it. He just seldom feels like it.

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And SIA, I'm glad you enjoy that other forum but if UT were to start something along those lines in the cellar I don't think it would work. Actually the cellar would probably become a much friendlier place but it would be at the cost of a large portion of long term dwellars.
Actually, we have very passionate debates on that board. I don't think rep points stop anyone, including me, from expressing their opinions. There, rep points are more about longevity on the board than they are anything else.

I don't see that rep points would make the cellar "friendlier," either. If UG, for example, had a string of red squares after his name, he'd probably take it as a sign that he's been successful at lambasting all us wimps. And if Merc or UG or the like gave me a negative rep, I'd consider it a badge of honor. But the Cellar is small enough that we really don't need score cards on the members, and I think people would ignore them, anyway.

It's been said a thousand times before, and I'll say it again. People who are interested in an intelligent debate and consider name calling the provenance of kindergarteners do just ignore the politics forum which is too bad. There's no point in having it as long as Merc and UG are allowed to attack anyone who suggests a different point of view than their own.

I don't like banning people, but maybe those two should be banned from that forum. Don't know if this is possible. But in the absence of any other solution, we should just rename "Politics" to the "Merc and UG Ugliness Forum." That way, new members like Jill would at least be warned.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:38 PM   #143
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, we should just rename "Politics" to the "Merc and UG Ugliness Forum." That way, new members like Jill would at least be warned.
Go back some months or years and you could use other names. The instigators and asshats change and the people who are irritated change. Personally I don't think the politics forum ever really recovered from the 04 election. or was it the 06?
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:11 PM   #144
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It was probably the '04...it was widespread.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:04 PM   #145
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This board looks centre-right to me, too. I do think there is a difference between where the Americans and the British place the "centre".
I volunteered to mod a thread if people found that a helpful idea - I can't say I'm particularly in favour of modding, but feel that I can tell a gratuitous insult from a reasoned argument and offered that as a contribution to calming things down.
I'm not at all sorry the offer's not been taken up.
I "self-police" my involvement with the trolls, unpleasant regulars and other nastinesses on the board by not engaging with them. I have employed the "ignore" function twice, but mostly I skip over the stuff I want to avoid. As a lot of this is in the politics forum, I don't go in there at all.
Usually the shit settles down after a while and the Cellar becomes a pleasant place to hang out again for a while.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:20 PM   #146
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i don't post (with the exception of the osama thread and a couple others) for basically the reason here everyone is discussing. why would one want to post their views only to be butt fucked (and not in a good way mind you) for their beliefs? seems to me that went down in the mid 1900's and the outcome was useless death and torture. not saying that the politics thread here is useless death and torture but hey, why post my views when someone is gonna come along and say that i deserve to be raped by tribbles from star trek? ok thx bai!
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:24 PM   #147
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That's it. Get the tribbles.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:27 PM   #148
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I've changed my mind. I'm on Flint's side now.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:30 PM   #149
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:31 PM   #150
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thank god it's time to cook supper!

grilled black drum and jalapeņo poppers. any takers?
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