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xoxoxoBruce · 02-24-2008, 01:33 PM

How common, or uncommon if you wish, is this in soccer?

lookout123 · 02-24-2008, 05:17 PM

dipshit tackles are pretty common. but those are usually the "came in late", "stuck the foot in too long" kind. The "i'm not going to go for the ball on my way to your shin" are pretty rare though. injuries like this happen once every few years.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-24-2008, 06:02 PM

Are there likely to be reprisals on the dirty player?

zippyt · 02-24-2008, 06:19 PM

I saw the Video from this , and some stills , NASTY !!!!

lumberjim · 02-24-2008, 08:46 PM

yeah. could be either compassion or venting. regardless......there's an attraction to the thread for some more than others. not judging you. just stirring the poo.

love me a little bit.

DanaC · 02-25-2008, 08:03 AM

lj me love you long time.

Trilby · 02-25-2008, 08:45 AM

me love lj for long time, too.

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Flint · 02-25-2008, 10:34 AM

Eduardo tackle was dangerous, not malicious -telegraph.co.uk

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Only those with the flintiest of hearts would not have allowed Arsenal some outpouring of frustration at the end.

lookout123 · 02-25-2008, 11:13 AM

Complete BS article by an asshat journalist. dangerous? going into a tackle your foot can slip a bit high, and you might clip the other player - that would be dangerous. But if you are playing the ball your toes are extended. You can't win the ball with the bottom of your foot. Taylor went into the tackle with his foot higher than the ball, both feet off the ground (no chance of pulling out of a challenge) and his foot flexed with only cleats showing. Malicious all day. That and the fucker actually laughed after he saw the result.

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Warriors like Joey Barton

But all that really needs to be said about the author is this quote. If he thinks Joey Barton is a warrior, then he is a fool. He is known more for cheap shots and being arrested for assault than any skill he might have.

Flint · 02-25-2008, 11:18 AM

A little thing called context:

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There are some others in the game, individuals with a violent streak, who would launch themselves at opponents in a crude attempt to stop them.
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Saturday's dreadful accident must encourage all professionals who have been guilty of spiteful challenges...to see the error of their ways.
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Restraint is required. Warriors like Joey Barton...should think before they dive in.

lookout123 · 02-25-2008, 11:34 AM

i read it and i understand the context. putting "warrior" and "joey barton" just doesn't work. If you ever watched Barton play you'd understand that warrior should be replaced with brainless thug. This is the problem in the english game right now. You've got a bunch of media hacks telling people what is right and what is wrong. They talk about "english grit" when describing dirty tackles made by Barton, Savage, etc. and they exalt the dirty play of their legend Roy Keane. The young players come out and try to duplicate what this style of play and injuries are inevitable. They describe injuries as unlucky rather than what they are - the obvious and inevitable result of letting dangerous tackles go unpunished. eh, whatever.

Flint · 02-25-2008, 11:57 AM

Yeah, my interest in this extends only as far as my name was mentioned in the article.

As far as what you're saying about dangerous tackles, that appears to be exactly what the author of the article was saying. And he noted Barton as an example of what is wrong with the game. I can't imagine that he meant "warrior" (or "violent" or "crude" or "spiteful") as a compliment.

lookout123 · 02-25-2008, 12:02 PM

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I can't imagine that he meant "warrior" as a compliment.

Yeah, that could be it. I hear "warrior" used as a compliment to some of the rough and tumble "hard men" of english football like John Terry who the media adores, so I may have just been reading the guy wrong.

Flint · 02-25-2008, 12:08 PM

I will say that society has a precedent of treating someone who behaves dangrously enough as malicious, IE a drunk driver:
stupid, dangerous, not meaning to cause harm, yet putting himself in a situation where harm is cause due to his actions.

Cloud · 02-25-2008, 04:27 PM

Daughter No. 2 has left her husband. This is the third serious relationship she's had, and left but as much as this sucks, she did the right thing, after hearing her side of the story.

Family is devastated, because this child just cannot get a break, and we so were hoping she'd found someone good. Now she's on her own, with no home, no vehicle, and two small children. Not to mention a thousand or so miles away.

02-24-2008, 01:33 PM	#1591
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02-24-2008, 05:17 PM	#1592
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	dipshit tackles are pretty common. but those are usually the "came in late", "stuck the foot in too long" kind. The "i'm not going to go for the ball on my way to your shin" are pretty rare though. injuries like this happen once every few years. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

02-24-2008, 06:02 PM	#1593
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Are there likely to be reprisals on the dirty player? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-24-2008, 06:19 PM	#1594
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	I saw the Video from this , and some stills , NASTY !!!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

02-24-2008, 08:46 PM	#1595
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	yeah. could be either compassion or venting. regardless......there's an attraction to the thread for some more than others. not judging you. just stirring the poo. love me a little bit. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-25-2008, 08:03 AM	#1596
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	lj me love you long time.

02-25-2008, 08:45 AM	#1597
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	me love lj for long time, too. and for five dollah.

02-25-2008, 11:34 AM	#1601
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i read it and i understand the context. putting "warrior" and "joey barton" just doesn't work. If you ever watched Barton play you'd understand that warrior should be replaced with brainless thug. This is the problem in the english game right now. You've got a bunch of media hacks telling people what is right and what is wrong. They talk about "english grit" when describing dirty tackles made by Barton, Savage, etc. and they exalt the dirty play of their legend Roy Keane. The young players come out and try to duplicate what this style of play and injuries are inevitable. They describe injuries as unlucky rather than what they are - the obvious and inevitable result of letting dangerous tackles go unpunished. eh, whatever. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

02-25-2008, 11:57 AM	#1602
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Yeah, my interest in this extends only as far as my name was mentioned in the article. As far as what you're saying about dangerous tackles, that appears to be exactly what the author of the article was saying. And he noted Barton as an example of what is wrong with the game. I can't imagine that he meant "warrior" (or "violent" or "crude" or "spiteful") as a compliment. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

02-25-2008, 12:08 PM	#1604
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I will say that society has a precedent of treating someone who behaves dangrously enough as malicious, IE a drunk driver: stupid, dangerous, not meaning to cause harm, yet putting himself in a situation where harm is cause due to his actions. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

02-25-2008, 04:27 PM	#1605
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Daughter No. 2 has left her husband. This is the third serious relationship she's had, and left but as much as this sucks, she did the right thing, after hearing her side of the story. Family is devastated, because this child just cannot get a break, and we so were hoping she'd found someone good. Now she's on her own, with no home, no vehicle, and two small children. Not to mention a thousand or so miles away. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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