Men Abortion and Choice

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

wow, her new guy must have a big cock.

Whatever it takes to get here stupid ass away from the kids so she doesn't fuck them up anymore than she already has. Thanks for the insight there LJ.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by yesman065

Whatever it takes to get here stupid ass away from the kids so she doesn't fuck them up anymore than she already has. Thanks for the insight there LJ.

oh...that was wrong of me to say.

my apologies.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

oh...that was wrong of me to say.
my apologies.

...accepted without prejudice.

[DanaC]

Lj, please reassure me that your real life occupation isnt as a therapist of any kind :P

Tough gig yesman, sounds like you got the better part of the bargain.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Tough gig yesman, sounds like you got the better part of the bargain.

I gave all my money and then some to her or lawyers - I ended up with the kids and a heavily mortgaged house - In my opinion, I got the better end by far. tx

[DanaC]

I'm not sure what our law is.

[Cicero]

I'm still shocked this is even up for debate. Incredible. Paternal laws can go to hell. That's how they made sure women didn't legally get to own anything, I guess we are still not deemed as human...like we are still just a bunch of baby-bags. Hey let's just go right back there....after all this. Awesome. I'm going to throw something, or someone......how irritating. Those of you that agree to these barbaric policies................shame on you!

Then what are you going to do? Sue us for having a sugar cream filled donut while we are forced to incubate your child? Fuck off. And no- I'm not going to edit.

Yes, it is a sad world. Let's try and minimize the damage.

I guess we are still not deemed as human

I feel the same way.
Guess we just disagree.

[Cicero]

*sigh*
So much for civilization and society. So much sophistication resides on the outside and very little on the inside. I'm starting to think that some men only think they have a true understanding of mature subjects, and really prefer to remain ignorant.

I still wonder who gets to sue if something happens during the incubation process and a miscarriage happens?
What happens then, in the case of premature births?

There are too many variables that include burning a witch here. One thing leads to the other- we are talking about men's choice over women's bodies which can and does go very wrong...tons of possibilities there for a "grave" outcome. Especially when historically and recurrently these kinds of social and legal processes have killed women and deprived them of their natural and lawful rights.

I see your disagreement RK and raise you a-there is no "just" about the subject so far. But I will offer a - I wish RK would "just" pull his head out of his butt, c'mon you're smarter than that.

Originally Posted by Cicero

*sigh*
So much for civilization and society. So much sophistication resides on the outside and very little on the inside. I'm starting to think that some men only think they have a true understanding of mature subjects, and really prefer to remain ignorant.

I still wonder who gets to sue if something happens during the incubation process and a miscarriage happens?
What happens then, in the case of premature births?

There are too many variables that include burning a witch here. One thing leads to the other- we are talking about men's choice over women's bodies which can and does go very wrong...tons of possibilities there for a "grave" outcome. Especially when historically and recurrently these kinds of social and legal processes have killed women and deprived them of their natural and lawful rights.

I see your disagreement RK and raise you a-there is no "just" about the subject so far. But I will offer a - I wish RK would "just" pull his head out of his butt, c'mon you're smarter than that.

I am talking about a man's choice for his child. Nothing more.
"Witch burnings" lol... cute.
I will no longer comment in here until I see something intelligent and new.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I am talking about a man's choice for his child. Nothing more.

"Nothing more" is right- you still haven't said how it would work without women needing a permission slip from a man to get an abortion.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I will no longer comment in here until I see something intelligent and new.

mmmmmm? mmmmmmm?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Cicero

So much for civilization and society. So much sophistication resides on the outside and very little on the inside. I'm starting to think that some men only think they have a true understanding of mature subjects, and really prefer to remain ignorant.

What does it say about our civilization and society that we kill our children and think nothing of it?

[jinx]

Originally Posted by wolf

What does it say about our civilization and society that we kill our children and think nothing of it?

Actually, it (abortion, not killing children, that's something else all together) seems like something most of us have put a lot of thought into - doesn't mean we all come to the same conclusions though.
Personally, I find unwanted and neglected children, the adults they become, and the cycles they perpetuate, much more disturbing and harmful to society than aborting fetuses. But thankfully my opinion doesn't mean squat unless I'm the woman actually considering an abortion.

Originally Posted by wolf

What does it say about our civilization and society that we kill our children and think nothing of it?

It says people think their fleeting pleasures and momentary desires are more important than what they produce from them and the harm it does to the children they produce and those they produce them with. Memememememememe.
All the rest of the ad-homonym bullshit being spewed here is beneath me.
If you know you could get pregnant from vaginal sex you know you must own the child with the person you did it with.
In a perfect world with unselfish, reaonable, responsible people the law should never get involved.

No one gets pregnant on accident.
So many who get pregnant on the pill who say they did not know that anti-biotics or ____ neutralized them, or that condoms are not 100% effective, are so full of shit. If you know it could happen, you own it or don't do it at all.

Reporter: What happened?
Officer: Well, seems he fell off of that building, thirty stories.
Reporter: So they committed suicide?
Officer: Nope. They had not memorized gravitational theory or even the equation even though someone handed them a slip of paper with it on it once a month... so we are calling it an accident. No real reason to think they would expect to fall right?