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Undertoad · 09-05-2012, 09:30 AM

FWIW this represents a failing disk so the entire Cellar may have to move to another server.

glatt · 09-05-2012, 09:47 AM

Sorry UT! I know you don't need this aggravation.

Razzmatazz13 · 09-05-2012, 09:47 AM

That sounds ominous...

Razzmatazz13 · 09-05-2012, 09:57 AM

So... I can't get chat to work... is that just me? or is it a related issue?

Undertoad · 09-05-2012, 09:58 AM

Related. A lot of things will be broken.

Now may be a good time to his the tip mug. I'm not sure exactly how much I'll have to replace.

Razzmatazz13 · 09-05-2012, 10:00 AM

Gotcha, I'll see what I can do UT

we'll help out.

Undertoad · 09-05-2012, 10:18 AM

Thanks and also, another thing that's temporarily broken is the tipmug fill level updating

The Cellar messages themselves are stored in a database on a different server and so you can rest assured that they will not be lost.

Undertoad · 09-05-2012, 11:41 AM

Goddamn. We are up and running on a different server.

And images work! Haven't tried chat yet.

Undertoad · 09-05-2012, 11:48 AM

OK, it's also mind-bogglingly fast right now because it's going to take a while for everyone's local DNS to be updated with the right server IP. Users may take as long as a day to be able to reach us.

Gravdigr · 09-05-2012, 12:41 PM

You da man, Undertoad!

Clodfobble · 09-05-2012, 12:42 PM

On that note, my PC still can't get here, but my phone can. That amuses me. Can't (don't wanna) tipmug from my phone, but I'll be sure to once I've got secure access. You're awesome, Tony.

Undertoad · 09-05-2012, 01:19 PM

Thanks y'all!

Technical explanation:

Early this morning, while the system was getting backed up, the server reported a bunch of disk errors. For safety purposes, it put itself into a "read only" state.

You might recall that the Cellar itself is on a different server than its database. This is why the forum's messaging system continued to work; new posts could be saved, because they weren't not being saved to the read-only cellar.org, they were being saved to the database server.

And that's why I could restore the forum pretty quickly. I just moved the code to another server, and told the Internet that cellar.org should point to that server instead of the old one. The massive database didn't need to move... just the Cellar code that points to it.

Tip Mug considerations:

The server that the Cellar is now on was never meant to manage the Cellar. This server is ancient, in Internet terms. It has almost no memory (256MB, yes MB), and it may slow down terribly once all the users and search engine spiders find it.

What I notice is that there are many fine rackmount servers on the eBay right now. Unless I'm mistaken, many of them seem to be going for well under their actual value. I think this is part of a trend away from running such servers, but it might do us a real solid favor and give us a new home for cellar.org.

SO: any mug donations that happen through Friday will go into the eBay New Used Server fund, and if there are enough of them I'll try to buy two to also replace the current database server. That will make things really speedy.

BigV · 09-05-2012, 01:38 PM

do you have something like an actual dollar target, like all the other telethons and pledge drives do?

You may reply by pm if you wish, or no reply at all, of course.

BigV · 09-05-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Goddamn. We are up and running on a different server.

And images work! Haven't tried chat yet.

is the original of this image rotated 90 deg counterclockwise?

Starring Slutpuppet · 09-05-2012, 01:41 PM

Are you a gladiator? You must be cuz you're the only one I've seen make even a feeble attempt at moderation/explanations around here so far.

Nice try on the tip jar thing, but I notice that it's really a beer mug. Guess we all know it's 5:00 where ever YOU are.

PS Do you think I'm cute?

09-05-2012, 09:47 AM	#1668
Razzmatazz13 Vicariously, I live... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,221	That sounds ominous... __________________ I have some people I need to have smoted. ~ SteveDallas

09-05-2012, 09:57 AM	#1669
Razzmatazz13 Vicariously, I live... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,221	So... I can't get chat to work... is that just me? or is it a related issue? __________________ I have some people I need to have smoted. ~ SteveDallas

09-05-2012, 10:00 AM	#1671
Razzmatazz13 Vicariously, I live... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,221	Gotcha, I'll see what I can do UT we'll help out. __________________ I have some people I need to have smoted. ~ SteveDallas

09-05-2012, 11:41 AM	#1673
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Goddamn. We are up and running on a different server. And images work! Haven't tried chat yet. Attached Images

09-05-2012, 12:41 PM	#1675
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	You da man, Undertoad! __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

09-05-2012, 09:30 AM	#1666
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	FWIW this represents a failing disk so the entire Cellar may have to move to another server.

09-05-2012, 09:47 AM	#1667
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Sorry UT! I know you don't need this aggravation.

09-05-2012, 09:58 AM	#1670
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Related. A lot of things will be broken. Now may be a good time to his the tip mug. I'm not sure exactly how much I'll have to replace.

09-05-2012, 10:18 AM	#1672
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Thanks and also, another thing that's temporarily broken is the tipmug fill level updating The Cellar messages themselves are stored in a database on a different server and so you can rest assured that they will not be lost.

09-05-2012, 11:48 AM	#1674
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	OK, it's also mind-bogglingly fast right now because it's going to take a while for everyone's local DNS to be updated with the right server IP. Users may take as long as a day to be able to reach us.

09-05-2012, 12:42 PM	#1676
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	On that note, my PC still can't get here, but my phone can. That amuses me. Can't (don't wanna) tipmug from my phone, but I'll be sure to once I've got secure access. You're awesome, Tony. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

09-05-2012, 01:19 PM	#1677
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Thanks y'all! Technical explanation: Early this morning, while the system was getting backed up, the server reported a bunch of disk errors. For safety purposes, it put itself into a "read only" state. You might recall that the Cellar itself is on a different server than its database. This is why the forum's messaging system continued to work; new posts could be saved, because they weren't not being saved to the read-only cellar.org, they were being saved to the database server. And that's why I could restore the forum pretty quickly. I just moved the code to another server, and told the Internet that cellar.org should point to that server instead of the old one. The massive database didn't need to move... just the Cellar code that points to it. Tip Mug considerations: The server that the Cellar is now on was never meant to manage the Cellar. This server is ancient, in Internet terms. It has almost no memory (256MB, yes MB), and it may slow down terribly once all the users and search engine spiders find it. What I notice is that there are many fine rackmount servers on the eBay right now. Unless I'm mistaken, many of them seem to be going for well under their actual value. I think this is part of a trend away from running such servers, but it might do us a real solid favor and give us a new home for cellar.org. SO: any mug donations that happen through Friday will go into the eBay New Used Server fund, and if there are enough of them I'll try to buy two to also replace the current database server. That will make things really speedy.

09-05-2012, 01:38 PM	#1678
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	do you have something like an actual dollar target, like all the other telethons and pledge drives do? You may reply by pm if you wish, or no reply at all, of course. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-05-2012, 01:41 PM	#1680
Starring Slutpuppet Fellow-Commoner Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 10	Are you a gladiator? You must be cuz you're the only one I've seen make even a feeble attempt at moderation/explanations around here so far. Nice try on the tip jar thing, but I notice that it's really a beer mug. Guess we all know it's 5:00 where ever YOU are. PS Do you think I'm cute?

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