Talk about the Marichiko ban here

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Tonchi

To LJ: That was no diatribe, my dear. To write a diatribe you have to be freshly angry and my ability to sit down and react to every post I see is greatly limited. It allows me to think about what I say, an indulgence which you seem to rarely have. I wasn't with you right out of the gate because it took me more than a week to even FIND this thread since it was in a forum which I did not know had been created. The computer time I can put in has to be dedicated primarily to my work at another website, where they are counting on me to be there even if I am only able to stand and page through all the hundreds of posts per day until my 2am shift is over. When it takes 2 days of standing/walking/sitting to get what you feel onto a page, it allows you to net it out and say what needs to be said. I NEED to defend somebody who, yes, I believe does not have a mean bone in their body. How and why I believe that is based on my personal knowledge and experience with her, just like my personal experience with you has convinced me that you play with your dick too much. I did not insult or attack anybody by giving my opinion, did you believe yours was the only opinion allowed? You believe you are justified in attacking Mari on the fine points, and why shouldn't you? That is totally your right. If somebody can't post consistent statements, they have left themselves open to being both corrected and rejected. I knew before the first remark you ever made to me here that unless you thought I was a 5' 8" nympho with a 40" bustline and blond hair past my waist, you were also going to treat me like shit. That doesn't worry me in the least. You are what you are, and The Cellar would not be nearly as interesting if we did not have all kinds. I cock you very much, and have a nice dick.

so, you're saying that your polished and composed nondiatribe is better than real, honest, in the moment comments like mine? If you take a whole day to write a response, don't you find that you might stray from the original feeling you had when inspired to post?

Do you feel like you've got me sussed? I play with my dick too much? is that even possible? believe me when i tell you that when i touch it, it's pretty much all business.

And why play the woman basher card? what other women have i been disrespectful to apart from mari? what made you think i'd treat you like shit? please remember that in my book, mari = flippant = atropos....and maybe one other......so count them as one.

actually, i've heard this enough now that i think a reckoning is in order.

here are the women(limited to those i have interacted with on a semi regular basis) i can think of off the top of my head, and whether or not i've treated them like shit or any other type of body waste:

wolf.....once maybe twice took a little shot at her, but in fun only and she proll didnt even notice.
dagney....only in self defense
stacyv......uhm, yeah i guess maybe....but damn.....
brianna...only once, and it was by accident
clodfobble.....never did
sunsparkz.......not on purpose
pie....nope
dar512( just kidding)
garnet......yes, but it was fun ,and she lked it
luvbugz.....you had to know her (think skysidhe but worse)...MAYBE
onyxcougar......argued a bit, but never attacked on a personal level
case......wouldn't dream of it
ladysycamore......meh?
brigliadore......no
catwoman
danaC.......i get these last two mized up. i think i got sick of one of them
labrat.......nope

if marichiko was black, do you think she'd have you convinced that i was a racist?


i'm a normal guy. and i'm honest about how i feel. i never said ban marichiko, i said stop believing her bullshit. is that so wrong???

[xoxoxoBruce]

i never said ban marichiko

Nobody did, except herself. Unfortunately she did it in such a way, she deserved a grapefruit in the kisser.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

wolf.....once maybe twice took a little shot at her, but in fun only and she proll didnt even notice.

There is a difference between din't notice, and din't mind.

I have a sense of the you in real life vs. the persona. Even if you are a car salesman <----intention tweak.

You know I like you, LJ.

[lumberjim]

give us a kiss, then, poopsie!

:kiss:

[Cheyenne]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

give us a kiss, then, poopsie!

:kiss:

we used to have a dog named poopsie.

[Ibby]

Mari never came back, did she?

[Cyclefrance]

Not yet, anyway. She moved to a new home. Probably a case of having to wait for a phone line. Can't see her giving up like that...

[Cyclefrance]

Originally Posted by Cheyenne

we used to have a dog named poopsie.

Is that because she did a whoopsie (or maybe poopsie suits just as well...?)

[Cheyenne]

Originally Posted by Cyclefrance

Is that because she did a whoopsie (or maybe poopsie suits just as well...?)

I dunno, my Mom named her. A dog we had a few years before she had named Poocher. So who knows.

Originally Posted by Cyclefrance

Not yet, anyway. She moved to a new home. Probably a case of having to wait for a phone line. Can't see her giving up like that...

Yup, out here in the sticks, you have to wait a god-awful time for a phone line.

I have wondered about returning to this board yet one more time. The thought crosses my mind to do it for spite, but that’s hardly a productive use of my time. I’ve made some good friends here, and they are what draw me back.

I find it ironic that I have been as open and honest on this board as on very few others that I frequent, yet it is on this board, that certain people continue to accuse me of lying. This interests me for more reasons than one.

I want to someday write my story, and, naturally, I’d like to be believed. In all due humility, I think mine is a story that needs to be told. And I’m very curious about the psychology of the response of “normies.” Patrick can write about his son, and that’s OK, but God forbid that a person with a disability ever speak up for themselves.

My theory is that people don’t believe me because I don’t come off a stereotypical person with neurological damage – whatever that stereotype might be. I write too well, for one thing, although my spelling is a source of constant mirth around here.

And I think, also, that for some people it is scarey to contemplate falling out of the safe middle class as I have due to a disability. We don’t want to believe that very bad things can happen to decent, hard working people here in the good old USA.

For the record, I worked for 30 years until I gradually became too ill to continue due to prolonged, chronic carbon monoxide exposure. I had been at various times, a professor, a teacher, and the head of a library. At the end I was getting fired from janitorial jobs – one of them, ironically enough, for a car dealership. I ended up becoming homeless for about three months until I was finally awarded my SSDI. My award sum is low because I stupidly continued to try to work for car dealerships, etc., for very low wages. SSDI is weighed most heavily toward your recent quarters of earnings.

I have a car because I was able to buy a second hand one from my SSDI back pay. SSDI is no more welfare than old folks accepting their social security check is every month, BTW. My ex who turned out to be a very clever con made mincemeat of me because my memory of the years right after the CO exposure is non existant. I estimate that he got away with around $13,000, but I’ll never know for sure.

Flippant/Atropos is a real person who sometimes used my computer and is not me. I sometimes drink a glass of cheap wine. I smoke tobacco cigarettes.

By the way, gas in my part of the world is $3.10/gal.

Oh, and I just went back through and read a few of the posts on this god-awful long thread. I love the diagnosis of BPD made by someone who has never even met me or talked to me in person. Wolf has a degree in geography, I beleive, and Brianna - well, I won't go there although she obviously has no compunction about making that trip herself.

I am not even going to discuss such a ridiculous diagnosis further. Life is too short.

Originally Posted by jinx

It was asked in another thread "Is it real" as in here, in the cellar, are people really who they say they are? Seems that at least a few people find this to be important, and most, if not all, answered in the affirmative. If it's not real, if we are not who we say we are, if people are free to make shit up as they go along, to sound more interesting, to prop up their own ego's, to win arguments - whatever... what is the point? Why are we wasting our time here - have they canceled television or something?

If truth, honesty, integrity, whatever you want to call it, have no value here, if everyone thinks this is all made up, then no one believes anyone about anything. I think we're seeing a bit of that now, like with Bruce for example.

Marichiko has a habit of telling stories that are not water tight, they leave room for doubt. That can't be said of everyone here, which is why I imagine not everyone is questioned like she is - or maybe it's becuase she's the only female here, I don't know for sure. But in my experience, when engaged in a debate, marichiko defaults to using a personal example to support whatever claim she has made, one which is often highly questionable.
For example; the Clarity Rose thread. Marichiko was questioned about the process for obtaining a housing voucher, and questioned about the lack of housing available. A link to what appeared to be exactly what marichiko said didn't exist was offered. She claimed to have personally visited the home in that link (chosen at random from hundreds in the state of CO) just the week before - and went on to claim that the homes listed on web sites like the one offered were actually never available (the web site obviously being maintained just to fuck with people).

Blech! Why am I going back and reading this garbage? At any rate, Ms. Honesty and Integrity, Cortez, Colorado where those apartments were listed is just a 18 minute drive from where I currently live in Mancos. Go check it out on Google since you never beleive me. I visited this area twice last summer in anticipation of my move. I had a long discussion with the manager who explained to me that NOTHING was currently available at that particular apartment complex and when something DID become available, they liked to give the apartments to families. I doubt if you picked that location at random. You and LJ seem to have a fondness for the 4-Corners area, as do I. I get to live out here now - nyah, nyah.

Originally Posted by Jinx

Another example

Originally Posted by Jinx

is in a thread about Walmart, mari claims that she was cheated out of benefits by a dept. store where she worked. When questioned about the obligation to pay benefits, to provide a link showing that benefits are a [federal] requirement for full time employment- her response? "Find your own link, sorry, I speak from experience" Hmm, yeah, that's a satisfying debate, but then, I suppose I was kicking her wheelchair by even asking about it. Well, I did find my own link. What was mari's reaction to finding out she wasn't cheated and her personal experience was not accurately conveyed? " Whatever. Believe what you want. Its nothing to me."

Indeed. It is something to some of us though.

Its something to me, too, but why bother with arguing with little Ms. Stand by Her Man? I could state that the sky is blue, and you respond back self righteously that the sky happens to be grey today where you are. Well, its blue in the Durango/Mancos/Cortez area, girlfriend. Sorry you have to live on the soggy, smoggy East Coast. Too bad about the guy you're married to, also.

PS I don't know why the first part of my response came out blue underlined.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by marichiko

.......arguing with little Ms. Stand by Her Man? I could state that the sky is blue, and you respond back self righteously that the sky happens to be grey today where you are. ......

has it never occurred to you that Jinx is fully capable of formulating her own opinions? Is the shadow I cast so long that she is consumed by it? Is it not possible that she gets me all wound up and I harangue you because I don't care if I piss you off or offend you? May it not be that my opinions are colored by hers, not hers by mine? She does, after all have much more free time.

[skysidhe]

Is this the wrong time to add how much I always hated that song?


re: stand by your man.
oh my gawd and the Dixie Chicks did a cover too!
* where's that ferkin fainting emoticon when ya need one*



Sometimes it's hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
You'll have bad times and he'll have good times
Doing things that you don't understand

But if you love him please forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him, whoa be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just man

Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When the nights are cold and lonely

Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man

And if you love him, whoa be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just a man

Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When the nights are cold and lonely

Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man



.................bleh

[Happy Monkey]

It's hard to decide which gender the song presents a lower opinion of...

...but I love the Blues Brothers cover.

[skysidhe]

....blues brothers aye?


I think it presents a low opinion of the person who wrote it:P