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BrianR · 02-02-2009, 03:21 PM

Sorry to interrupt, but the English Nazi in me demands that I correct those of you who believe that the USA is a democracy. It is not...yet.

The United States as established is a federal republic...the rule of law, not a democracy which is the rule by a majority.

Here is a nice video to explain the difference.

Thank you and goodnight.

TheMercenary · 02-02-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianR

Sorry to interrupt, but the English Nazi in me demands that I correct those of you who believe that the USA is a democracy. It is not...yet.

The United States as established is a federal republic...the rule of law, not a democracy which is the rule by a majority.

Here is a nice video to explain the difference.

Thank you and goodnight.

You be highly mistaken if you believed that any of us don't know what we formed and why we dumped you.

sugarpop · 02-02-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianR

Sorry to interrupt, but the English Nazi in me demands that I correct those of you who believe that the USA is a democracy. It is not...yet.

The United States as established is a federal republic...the rule of law, not a democracy which is the rule by a majority.

Here is a nice video to explain the difference.

Thank you and goodnight.

yea yea, I know. But we have this need to spread democracy, because we are supposedly a democratic people.

classicman · 02-02-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Why is it OUR JOB to police the world? What if the world doesn't want us policing it?

Then I'd have to agree with Radar.

So let me get this straight, you think that the United States has the right to go into any sovereign country that is not a democracy, and take over, so we can spread democracy? That is not very democratic.

Nope, thats not what I'm saying, not by a long shot.

sugarpop · 02-02-2009, 07:22 PM

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Nope, thats not what I'm saying, not by a long shot.

Please elaborate then. I'm interested in your opinion.

classicman · 02-02-2009, 07:54 PM

I honesty don't think there is any "one" answer to that question. Where is the line in a world of gray? I dunno. I don't believe there is any clear equation to the question. I think each situation needs to be evaluated on its own set of circumstances. It would be convenient if there were, but there isn't.

classicman · 02-02-2009, 08:34 PM

Hamas leader praises Iran's help in Gaza 'victory'

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TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal on Sunday praised Iran for helping Hamas achieve "victory" over Israel in Gaza, according to Iranian media reports. "The victory of the people of Gaza was a miracle of God and the Islamic Republic definitely has a share in this victory," Meshaal said after meeting with Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, according to Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency.

Meshaal arrived in Tehran for his first visit to the country since Israel's recent military offensive on Gaza, Iranian media reported. He also met with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki.

Meshaal -- who lives in exile in Syria -- is the head of Hamas, which rules the Palestinian territory of Gaza. Hamas has claimed victory over Israeli forces, saying the Jewish state failed to destroy its ability to fire rockets at southern Israel. But Israel has said it achieved its goal in Gaza, which was to change the security situation for southern Israel.

According to Fars News Agency, Khamenei congratulated Meshaal, saying, "The people of Gaza and the Islamic Resistance made us all proud and with their patience and perseverance successfully passed this very difficult test."

The Iranian leader stressed that that the war in Gaza has not yet ended, noting that "the Islamic Resistance must, with full alertness and in proper ways, prepare itself fully for the possibility of the beginning of another war," Fars reported.

Khamenei denounced some Arab countries for criticizing Hamas, and called for Israeli leaders to be tried for war crimes.

That'll help the situation - NOT.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-02-2009, 09:45 PM

Yes. Iran supports Hamas. US supports Israel.

Kind of like a mini cold war...

TheMercenary · 02-02-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Yes. Iran supports Hamas. US supports Israel.

Kind of like a mini cold war...

Sorry, that dog does not hunt. You are supporting Hamas and it is obvious in your posts. Iran does not admit to their support of Hamas, even though the wold knows that is bull fucking shit. SO do you support Hamas? Please tell us where you stand on this issue. NOW.

There is no doubt where the US stands. Fuck Hamas.

sugarpop · 02-03-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Yes. Iran supports Hamas. US supports Israel.

Kind of like a mini cold war...

Exactly.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-02-2009, 09:56 PM

What is obvious is that I do not support Israel. That does not equate to being pro-Hamas.

TheMercenary · 02-02-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

What is obvious is that I do not support Israel. That does not equate to being pro-Hamas.

Come on bro. Don't blow smoke up our skirts. You have not said a damm thing that went against a Hamas position since you have been on here.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-02-2009, 10:06 PM

Why would I say anything against Hamas besides showing you guys that I can be anti-Hamas as well. 95% of this forum is very pro-Israel so I'm never going to argue against Hamas on here. I have argued against pro-Hamas with many other people. Their stance doesn't make any more sense to me, hence why I always say that BOTH sides lead to this problem and that it is a power problem, not moral.

TheMercenary · 02-02-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Why would I say anything against Hamas besides showing you guys that I can be anti-Hamas as well. 95% of this forum is very pro-Israel so I'm never going to argue against Hamas on here. I have argued against pro-Hamas with many other people. Their stance doesn't make any more sense to me, hence why I always say that BOTH sides lead to this problem and that it is a power problem, not moral.

I don't buy it. You have defended the actions of Hamas repeatedly.

sugarpop · 02-03-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't buy it. You have defended the actions of Hamas repeatedly.

So have I. But you know me, and you know I don't support Hamas, exactly...

02-02-2009, 03:21 PM	#1
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	Sorry to interrupt, but the English Nazi in me demands that I correct those of you who believe that the USA is a democracy. It is not...yet. The United States as established is a federal republic...the rule of law, not a democracy which is the rule by a majority. Here is a nice video to explain the difference. Thank you and goodnight. __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

02-02-2009, 07:54 PM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I honesty don't think there is any "one" answer to that question. Where is the line in a world of gray? I dunno. I don't believe there is any clear equation to the question. I think each situation needs to be evaluated on its own set of circumstances. It would be convenient if there were, but there isn't. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-02-2009, 09:45 PM	#8
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Yes. Iran supports Hamas. US supports Israel. Kind of like a mini cold war... __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

02-02-2009, 09:56 PM	#11
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	What is obvious is that I do not support Israel. That does not equate to being pro-Hamas. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

02-02-2009, 10:06 PM	#13
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Why would I say anything against Hamas besides showing you guys that I can be anti-Hamas as well. 95% of this forum is very pro-Israel so I'm never going to argue against Hamas on here. I have argued against pro-Hamas with many other people. Their stance doesn't make any more sense to me, hence why I always say that BOTH sides lead to this problem and that it is a power problem, not moral. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

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