Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week - Page 16

Aliantha · 11-05-2007, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

You can't assume an Israeli-centric world.

You could basically write the same thing for an Arab-centric view.

FACTS

Arabs can never allow a Jewish state in the Middle East
They will continue to fight, no matter the odds against them
Blah, blah

It just solidifies the fact that there is no solution that doesn't involve hurting one side.

Well you got my point. I wonder why it was so hard for Radar to see it. Must be blinders he's wearing I guess.

Radar · 11-05-2007, 07:40 AM

It's not extremists to say that a nation will never just pack it up and leave, especially a nuclear power. It's not extremists to say that a nation will never stop killing those who attack it. It's not extremist to say that the aggressors are the ones who have to stop the violence rather than the defenders.

It is extremist to suggest that a nation allow itself to be bombed and attacked for 60 years without doing something about it. It is extremist to suggest that Israel cease to exist as the Jewish homeland it was created to be.

Radar · 11-05-2007, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

You can't assume an Israeli-centric world.

You could basically write the same thing for an Arab-centric view.

FACTS

Arabs can never allow a Jewish state in the Middle East
They will continue to fight, no matter the odds against them
Blah, blah

It just solidifies the fact that there is no solution that doesn't involve hurting one side.

That is simple. If the Arabs will not allow a Jewish state and will continue to attack no matter what, the only solution is for them to be destroyed completely and the odds of this are much greater than the odds are that the Zionist state of Israel will ever go away.

Israel can wipe out all of these nations without any help from the UK, the UN, or America.

Rexmons · 11-05-2007, 10:45 AM

Eradicating the Palestinians would guarantee Isreals own eradication at the hands of neighboring Muslim countries.

Radar · 11-05-2007, 12:37 PM

Actually it wouldn't because Israel alone can defeat them all without any help from the USA, the UK, or the UN.

TheMercenary · 11-05-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

You are neglecting the indisputable fact that it DID belong to them because it was won in battle. The UK owned the land. Before that the Turks owned it, Before that the Roman's owned it, etc.

This is how border disputes and land ownership have always been decided throughout history.

The UK were the rightful owners of land and they gave it to create a few different countries. People that previously lived on that land (whether it was for a day or a thousand years) had no legitimate claim of ownership.

Merely living on land does not make it yours and the number of years you have lived on it doesn't change this.

Ok, based on that theory the US owned Europe after WW2. Give it back. The US owns Iraq. The US owns Afganistan. The US owns Italy. The US owns a hell of a lot of property and you all need to give it back right now.

Radar · 11-05-2007, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Ok, based on that theory the US owned Europe after WW2. Give it back. The US owns Iraq. The US owns Afganistan. The US owns Italy. The US owns a hell of a lot of property and you all need to give it back right now.

It's funny you should say that. This is part of the reason the cold-war was started. Russia felt that since France had been defeated, it no longer existed as a country and when Germany fell, they felt that Germany, France, and Italy should be divided among the allied forces.

I happen to agree with them. France would be a much nicer place if America owned it. Also, if you think America doesn't own Iraq or Afghanistan you're nuts.

Ever heard of the term, "You broke it, you bought it?" Puppet regimes have been setup that have allegiance to America.

piercehawkeye45 · 11-05-2007, 02:10 PM

Ah, don't you love the smell of colonialism in the morning?

I kind of wish we were still under British control as well...

DanaC · 11-05-2007, 04:50 PM

Well.....ya know deep down Americans are just failed Londoners really :P

Sundae · 11-05-2007, 04:59 PM

The whole world is either a failed Londoner or a London wannabe :p

Aliantha · 11-05-2007, 05:05 PM

Hey...my ancestors didn't fail. They just committed vile crimes (like stealing cabbages from someone back yard to feed their kids).

I don't want to be a Londoner. I really love being an Aussie.

Thanks for being silly enough to send my family here you lot.

DanaC · 11-05-2007, 05:06 PM

*grins*

The majority of the early English settlers to America were people who'd migrated from rural or depressed areas of the country to London (many from Wales actually) in hopes of finding work/wealth/a future and ended up with some rather stark survival choices to make. Many of those transported were such people who'd turned to petty crime or prostitution. Many of those who didn't end up being transported for crimes, ended up selling themselves into indentured servitude in order to try their luck in the New World, having realised rather sharply, that London was not a good place to be if you weren't part of an 'honourable' i.e. apprenticed trade.

Sundae · 11-05-2007, 05:12 PM

Only parodying the archetypal London arrogance.
As you were.

Aliantha · 11-05-2007, 05:18 PM

I know you were SG.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-05-2007, 05:56 PM

The smart ones found their way out of the fog.

11-05-2007, 07:40 AM	#227
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	It's not extremists to say that a nation will never just pack it up and leave, especially a nuclear power. It's not extremists to say that a nation will never stop killing those who attack it. It's not extremist to say that the aggressors are the ones who have to stop the violence rather than the defenders. It is extremist to suggest that a nation allow itself to be bombed and attacked for 60 years without doing something about it. It is extremist to suggest that Israel cease to exist as the Jewish homeland it was created to be. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

11-05-2007, 10:45 AM	#229
Rexmons - Kavkaz United - Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 613	Eradicating the Palestinians would guarantee Isreals own eradication at the hands of neighboring Muslim countries. __________________ "Life's a bitch but God forbid the bitch divorce me..."

11-05-2007, 12:37 PM	#230
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Actually it wouldn't because Israel alone can defeat them all without any help from the USA, the UK, or the UN. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

11-05-2007, 04:59 PM	#235
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	The whole world is either a failed Londoner or a London wannabe :p __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-05-2007, 05:05 PM	#236
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Hey...my ancestors didn't fail. They just committed vile crimes (like stealing cabbages from someone back yard to feed their kids). I don't want to be a Londoner. I really love being an Aussie. Thanks for being silly enough to send my family here you lot. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-05-2007, 02:10 PM	#233
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Ah, don't you love the smell of colonialism in the morning? I kind of wish we were still under British control as well...

11-05-2007, 04:50 PM	#234
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Well.....ya know deep down Americans are just failed Londoners really :P

11-05-2007, 05:06 PM	#237
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	grins The majority of the early English settlers to America were people who'd migrated from rural or depressed areas of the country to London (many from Wales actually) in hopes of finding work/wealth/a future and ended up with some rather stark survival choices to make. Many of those transported were such people who'd turned to petty crime or prostitution. Many of those who didn't end up being transported for crimes, ended up selling themselves into indentured servitude in order to try their luck in the New World, having realised rather sharply, that London was not a good place to be if you weren't part of an 'honourable' i.e. apprenticed trade.

11-05-2007, 05:12 PM	#238
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Only parodying the archetypal London arrogance. As you were. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-05-2007, 05:18 PM	#239
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I know you were SG. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-05-2007, 05:56 PM	#240
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The smart ones found their way out of the fog. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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