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[footfootfoot]

Ahh! Yet again, reading the actual article in question proves to be immeasurably illuminating.

I think they should only be taxed if they sell them.

[xoxoxoBruce]

From Glatt's last link

She quoted a 2013 tax guide in which the IRS stated: “If you find and keep property that does not belong to you that has been lost or abandoned (treasure-trove), it is taxable to you at its fair market value in the first year it is in your undisputed possession.”

If their are taxed, then the government is stating they have "undisputed possession". I read that as the government is not claiming the coins were stolen from the mint and must be returned.

Someone told me the finders are giving very large sums to charity.

[Griff]

You can be sure than any individual with just a casual interest will disburse that money to better ends than our beloved FedGov.

[Carruthers]

This is how it started...

A butcher who stopped displaying dead animals in his window due to complaints they were upsetting children says the public can decide whether the displays should return.

JBS Family Butchers in Sudbury, Suffolk, stopped displaying the carcasses after people threatened to boycott nearby shops.

Some shoppers said the sight of the animals was "disgusting".

The business said it was now asking for people's thoughts on the matter.

Assistant manager Richard Nicholson, 25, said the shop, which is in the Borehamgate shopping centre, had displayed the animals in the window for "years".

Butcher window display: Public to decide on dead animals


...and this is how it ended.

A butcher who stopped displays of dead animals in his Suffolk shop window due to complaints is to reinstate them.

JBS Family Butchers in Sudbury stopped showcasing the carcasses of seasonal produce after people threatened to boycott nearby shops.

But butcher John Sawyer, 53, said he had received "overwhelming" support in favour of displaying the produce and it would return at the weekend.

"It's easily avoided if you don't want to see it," he said.

The shop, in the Borehmagate shopping centre, had displayed the dead animals in its window for several years before two letters published in the Suffolk Free Press prompted their removal on Friday.

Sudbury butcher's dead animal window display to return

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

From Glatt's last link

If their are taxed, then the government is stating they have "undisputed possession". I read that as the government is not claiming the coins were stolen from the mint and must be returned.

Someone told me the finders are giving very large sums to charity.

Originally Posted by Griff

You can be sure than any individual with just a casual interest will disburse that money to better ends than our beloved FedGov.

I guess the government realized that it would stand to earn more in taxes than the gold's value. I'm sure there is not an ebay user with the handle, fedgov.

Under the "Finders Keepers- Losers Weepers" law...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Why, the tax is on "market value at the time of the find", so they could tax for a portion, or grab it all and sell for market value.
Methinks that would drag out for years in court, though, and the government certainly wouldn't do anything that wasn't in the best interest of the citizen taxpayer.

[Sundae]

Yay!
Thanks for the find, Carr.

Yeah, we discussed this face to face while losers were snoozin' and not on GMT.

[Carruthers]

Pleased to be of service!

[footfootfoot]

We have a lot of "Right to farm life" signs posted around these here parts.

Basically means "If you move to farm country from the city don't be surprised at the things you find on and around farms."

[DanaC]

On carcasses in butchers' windows: I can understand why some parents feel that way. It's not like they've marched into an abattoir and complained about blood, or a farm and complained about animal shit.

Lots of kids take that stuff in their stride, but not all. The idea that kids shouldn't be shielded from the realities of life and death, or from the realities of what they consume and where it comes from is all well and good until you have a five year old waking up with nightmares and terrified of walking down the high street, because that's where the butcher's shop window is, with its glassy eyed pigs head and glistening rabbit corpses.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Oh horseshit, the 5 year old won't have nightmares (about the butcher shop, anyway) if the parents are doing their job.
Sorry folks, Wally World is closed today, you'll have to keep your kid in a reality proof box until we open again.

The internet is rife with people that don't know they and their pets are made of meat, there are actually days you shouldn't go out in the woods, and there is a relationship between everything and it's food.

These people spawn and vote.

[Carruthers]

I am indebted to this morning's edition of The Times...

The Rev Ian Gregory writes from Stoke-on-Trent to express concern that the council has taken joined-up thinking too far. A new medical centre has been built in the city that is next door but one to the coroner’s office, across the road from the mortuary and, if all else fails, bang opposite a scrap yard. Doesn’t entirely smack of optimism about the doctors’ skills at curing the sick.

In a similar vein...

A while back, I was stuck in a traffic jam, seemingly for all eternity, when I noticed a local undertaker's premises next door to a betting shop. I briefly considered visiting both establishments to see who would offer the better odds.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Oh horseshit, the 5 year old won't have nightmares (about the butcher shop, anyway) if the parents are doing their job.
Sorry folks, Wally World is closed today, you'll have to keep your kid in a reality proof box until we open again.

The internet is rife with people that don't know they and their pets are made of meat, there are actually days you shouldn't go out in the woods, and there is a relationship between everything and it's food.

These people spawn and vote.

That's a hell of a blanket statement about what would or wouldn't freak a kid out.

I was brought up with a very unsentimental view of animals (pets notwithstanding). Both my brother and father occasionally engaged in poaching. And it was not entirely unknown for dad to return from his job in the early hours of the morning with roadkill.

We went to a poachers' convention when i was around 7 or 8. Martin took part in a rabbit skinning contest (came 3rd) and gave me the foot of his rabbit to keep for luck. After he'd shot some wood pigeons for a pie, he attached string to one of the bird claws for me. It was awesome, you pull the cord and the bird foot moved and clenched. We kept lizards and snakes, who ate live food. I watched as mice disappeared down the gullet of a python.

But: in the market there was a butcher's stall that always had a pig's head prominently displayed. It gave me the heebie jeebies. I had nightmares about that head. And from an early age refused to go past that stall. Likewise, no matter how many dead animals I encountered (rabbits and game birds hung to dry in the back room) I was totally freaked out by fish - and still can't eat fish if it arrives with the head still attached.

It's the glassy eyes - or worse the empty sockets *shudders*

[Griff]

Wait, your Dad was Will Scarlet?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by DanaC

...And from an early age refused to go past that stall...

So your folks allowed you to dictate their path through the market?