AIG

[xoxoxoBruce]

How much control over the actions of Congress as a a whole, or individuals in it, do you think the President has? Any answer larger than zero is a fail.

[TGRR]

I don't get it.

Why is Obama responsible for anyone in congress?

Did we suddenly change to a monarchy, or something?

[classicman]

nevermind - move along.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TGRR

I don't get it.
Why is Obama responsible for anyone in congress?

Because classicman has a left-right dichotomy that means he must constantly post Rush Limbaugh style attacks on those who question the extremists Republican mantra.

Whether Dodd or Geithner or Paulson or Thain or Greenspan or whoever needs blame is irrelevant. The Cellar has been poisoned by constant attacks on Obama and others who are desperately trying to fix an economy that was undermined by that political agenda during the last decade.

Little here is about AIG, economics, or what might work and what makes things worse. A political extremist agenda is constantly attacking the Obama administration to avoid the politics that really created this mess.

You would think Geithner and Dodd created all problems due to classicman's constant Rush Limbaugh partisan attacks. So partisan that this independent is too busy challenging the lies rather than discuss the problem. Nothing from classicman offers a solution to or understanding of this AIG mess. That would require admitting to a political agenda that created this mess. To avoid that reality, political extremists must attack and destroy - not grasp, enlighten, and construct.

A left-right dichotomy accurately described most every classicman post because this problem is directly traceable to a his beloved political agenda that eliminated responsible accounting and corporate behavior. So attached is he to extremism that criticism of his left-right dichotomy is taken as a personal attack.

[TheMercenary]

Look beyond the bogus bonus smokescreen

My syndicated column today tallies up all the craptacular spending that’s been going on while the AIG-bashing hypocrites on the Hill crow about $165 million in corporate bonuses none of them bothered to stop before they rushed to fork over billions to AIG in the first place. I mention the little-noticed $6 billion GIVE Act, which just passed the House — and which looks like the very kind of Soros Slush Fund I warned about last summer. Also note the rising cost of the $2 trillion cap-and-trade scheme, which vigilant GOP Sen. James Inhofe has been red-flagging.

Bonus issue = Kabuki theater of mass distraction. Keep your eye on the ball.

(And this just in, via HA Headlines: “U.S. Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad said on Thursday he expects federal deficit spending will be about $1.6 trillion greater over the next ten years than President Barack Obama’s budget plan forecasts. Obama submitted his budget outline to Congress last month which forecast almost $7 trillion in deficits through 2019, however a worsening economic picture is expected to make the budget outlook darker. Conrad told reporters that the additional $1.6 trillion over the next decade was based on projections of the Democratic majority’s budget committee staff.”

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/20...s-smokescreen/

I like the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act.

You might want to read more about it then just Michelle Malkin....unless you're not interested in independent thinking and would rather just take the word of a partisan hack who often misrepresents the facts.

IMO, encouraging and supporting volunteerism and public service is a good thing..but I admit to not having read the bill line-by-line.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Redux

I like the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act.

I would encourage you to read more about it then just Michelle Malkin.

IMO, encouraging and supporting volunteerism and public service is a good thing..but I admit to not having read the bill line-by-line.

Then you missed the part where it isn't volunteer.

Your statement was like saying "What kind of commie won't vote for the PATRIOT Act? Why do they hate patriots?"

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

...unless you're not interested in independent thinking and would rather just take the word of a partisan hack who often misrepresents the facts.

Eh, your opinion.

Originally Posted by TGRR

Then you missed the part where it isn't volunteer.

Your statement was like saying "What kind of commie won't vote for the PATRIOT Act? Why do they hate patriots?"

I like the name of the Patriot Act:

Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT ACT) Act

[TheMercenary]

The Patriot Act, a lasting legacy of the Demoncratically controlled Congress.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The Patriot Act, a lasting legacy of the Demoncratically controlled Congress.

The Patriot Act was enacted in October 2001....Bush/Republican Congress...and shamefully, IMO, supported by a minority of Democrats in the emotional aftermath of 9/11.

One of those bills "rushed" through Congress by Bush and the Republicans in a manner that you now complain about.

Any amendments proposed by the Democrats after 2007 faced a Bush veto.

Damn..why do you keep rewriting history?

[TheMercenary]

Patriot 2 (revised Patriot 1) was passed by the dems after years of bitching about how bad it was for our country, including the provisions for wiretapping of US citizens they were all willing to throw themselves on a sword for.

http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/ll/subs/p_congress.htm

And any amendments, and there were many, that Bush threatened to veto were excluded for the sake of "national security."

But your unique interpretation of solely blaming the Dems for everything always keeps me amused.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The Patriot Act, a lasting legacy of the Demoncratically controlled Congress.

Hahahahahaha!

[TheMercenary]

Yep, all approved by the Demoncratics in Congress. Ok, not so controlled but the Dems caved.