Who Supports the War(s) - Page 17

Cam · 12-07-2002, 10:14 AM

Radar you are an idiot.

*now where is that ignore button*

slang · 12-07-2002, 10:21 AM

" he wasnt asking for proof about bills charitable giving. he was asking for proof regarding all the other bullshit youve<a href="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21b7c626/bc/spew.wav?bchDi89AOk7ysQVg"> spewed</a> since arriving here. "

perth · 12-07-2002, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by slang
" he wasnt asking for proof about bills charitable giving. he was asking for proof regarding all the other bullshit youve<a href="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21b7c626/bc/spew.wav?bchDi89AOk7ysQVg"> spewed</a> since arriving here. "

dammit slang. now i have to go find a copy of that movie.

~james

Griff · 12-07-2002, 10:34 AM

Guys, please let me know when my rants get that stupid... Dude fantasizes about being the first LP President when even LPers find him completely offensive.

MaggieL · 12-07-2002, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Tobiasly

OK, I'm admittedly fuzzy on all of the history leading up to now.. what do you mean when you say Microsoft "signed up" to implement Java in their OS...

They signed a contact with Javsasoft (the division of Sun in control of Java) to be permitted to include Java tech in Windows and to be the developers of the reference JVM implementation for Windows. Sun gave them total access to source code, and developers all over the planet did many man-years of development work relying on MSFTs promise that a compliant JVM would ship with every copy of Windows.

When MSFT realized--years down the road--that Java was actually beginning to deliver on its promises of platform portability, they decided the contract wasn't such a good deal for them after all and began to put code into their JVM to break compatibility: there would be one way to code some things for Windows and another way everywhere else. This was explicitly forbidden by the licence agreement.

Sun began beating on them to comply with what they'd promised to do in the licence agreement, and MSFT refused saying what they were doing "worked better".

When Java released Remote Method Invocation (a technology underlying J2EE and EJB), a means of calling code in another JVM or in another machine across a network, Microsoft saw a looming threat to the future dominance of their own DCOM technology (a .NET predecessor), because RMI works across *all* platforms, not just Windows. They flat out refused to implement it in their Java support as they had comitted to doing many years before--their contract called for them to imlement new revs of the Java API within a specified time limit after the Java platform was revved by Sun, and thier imlementations were required to pass compatibility test suites written by Sun...the same tests required of all other Java implementors. .

I think requiring MSFT to ship Sun's Java implementation with Windows is a suitable remedy for the damages calculatedly and deliberately caused by MSFT's bad-faith breach of the contracts they freely entered into.

By the way, Radar? I was working in computing before you were born..so your "17 years, you've been schooled" riff impresses me not at all. So you can sit down too, "little boy."

slang · 12-07-2002, 10:58 AM

In my opinion, it's the delivery that makes a post offensive.

If something is wonderfull to you, it's probably NOT to many others. Please explain in detail why you like it without making me sound like a dumbass for NOT liking it.

Opinion is great but supprting opinion or supporting facts are better. When someone presents opinion as fact, it's annoying, not interesting.

I really dont care what your opinion is, just dont bullshit me and yourself by posting it as divine wisdom.

It's also helpful not to become<a href="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21b7c626/bc/numnuts.wav?bcihr89A.8vGZK5i"> confrontational</a> when attempting to make you point.

So , I hope Radar and Cairo will continue contributing, I just wish they would improve the delivery so I can agree with them without looking like an ass.

Tobiasly · 12-07-2002, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Radar
And I'd look for that RFC but I've got to get to bed.

Don't bother. It was a rhetorical statement because there isn't one. Instead of using any of the other numerous existing email authorization schemes, they decided to use their own, and not publish the specs.

So any open-source program that wants to authenticate against MSN or anything else that uses NTLM must reverse engineer the protocol.

Tobiasly · 12-07-2002, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by slang
In my opinion, it's the delivery that makes a post offensive.

Yeah, Radar at first seemed like he'd be an interesting addition around here, but now he just sounds like a dick. I still don't know whether he actually believes his "Win2k never crashes" statement, but I don't really care.

jaguar · 12-07-2002, 10:57 PM

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I've been in IT for 17 years and you're a complete idiot if you think any of those OS's provide more security, are more user friendly, or are more stable than Win2k. I can talk about anything you want in the computer realm and put you and most others to shame. Now sit down little boy, you've been schooled.

Win2k is the most secure OS on earth? That statement alone deomnstrates your insipid and arrogant stupidity.

i'm not going to waste any more time on you.

jaguar · 12-07-2002, 10:58 PM

Tob: The MSN api is availaible from msft.
Doesn't mean your point is incorrect, just thought i'd point that out.

Tobiasly · 12-08-2002, 05:30 PM

Which MSN API are you referring to? I'm talking about their NTLM email authentication protocol. You won't find a specification anywhere. Ditto for their proprietary SMB extensions.

jaguar · 12-08-2002, 05:35 PM

No sorry, i meant the general chat one.

Cairo · 12-09-2002, 03:02 AM

Hermit22,
Your comprehension black outs seem intentional, since you are the only one "playing dumb" when it's convenient, then understanding fully when you wish to rebut! So when you "play dumb" I will reply "How convenient!"

1. How convenient! Charter 6 violations are suggestions by the UN to keep peace...Charter 7 violations are backed up with the use of force by UN members and they required unanamous votes...
Israel has never violated Charter 7 resolutions, Iraq has!
The UN is irrelevant and a joke, History has proven this. But I'm not going to let you get away with giving Saddam excuses and comfort he doesn't deserve, especially when it's idiots like you who demand that we jump through these irrlevant hoops in the first place!!!!
I didn't call anyone vermin, my husband did...
How convenient!
2. "Colorblind" when it comes to the truth? Hell YES! Colorful truths are lawyer-speak for defense lies!
3. Kashmir, Columbia, Israel, and America are all in the "During War" phase...if their enemy has not been defeated and still wants to defeat them, what do you call it?
No, sometimes the State is under the impression that the enemy has surrendered, when in fact, he was buying time to get his ass out of the sling!
4. Hey little boy, I already am an active member of society, and have been since 1981...when your contributions amounted to about 7 diapers a day, right? How many employees do you have? How much in taxes do you contribute per year? How many houses, property, cars, stocks,and insurance policies have you paid for and OWNED?....None yet? THAT'S what I thought, little boy!
Oh, my mind is open...just not to Socialism! Your mind(thanks to liberal indoctrination) is so open, your brains FELL OUT! That's not a good thing! Pour that in and swirl it around awhile!
Yes, my husband used to think and act exactly like you. So much so, that he was about to join the French Foreign Legion and before that, held such little regard for human life, he carried a bullet for the purpose of suicide! Then we had children, and he says, the Lord found him and awakened his purpose. Now he spends everyday righting his past wrongs. You seem to be at your Anti-America stage of your life, my husband was there too...with age comes wisdom.
5. Wrong! The Parliment Lenin was going to install never came to be because he was shot in the neck!
6. How convenient! America would be a better place to live if some people had a sense of shame or guilt! A healthy fear of ostracism leads to individual accountability!
7. How convenient! They couldn't find a single trace of some 9/11 victims either, do we assume that they too are indeed alive as well?
You don't understand what a bunker buster does to surrounding oxygen, do you?
WOW! Stop the presses! I dare to disagree with our Government!...So sue me!
8. The Bush Administration has always claimed that Saddam has proven ties with terrorists, in fact, he IS A TERRORIST! Many other Countries say the same!
The Bush Administration has also said from the beginning that some Countries will help US in secret for their own safety, the Czech Republic is one such Country, and President Bush will not, nor should he, betray their trust! When the Czech Republic says we can make the satellite tapes public, we will, otherwise the proof is a need to know basis...Countries who have come on board with US after being against, have seen the proof. Our own Congress, made an about face after perusing the proof! I'll side with the inner-circle who has all the intel available to them since I don't.
9. If you consider lawyer-speak, deception, and smooth talking like a cheating boyfriend trying to get you back is a "better speaker" then Bill"it depends on what the meaning of is, IS" Clinton is your guy! And Algore is such an IDIOT! In 1998 he said that regime change in Iraq was the only solution for Saddam...what's changed since '98,
Al? IDIOT! Algore is a perfect example of our F-ed up "higher education"! And you are another for considering lying under oath in a court of law, and getting others to perjure in order to obstruct justice is "relatively trivial"! Breaking the law is only "relatively trivial" to CRIMINALS!
10. Excuse me Stalin, BUT Self-defense is not terrorism! "propaganda by deed" Indeed! Tell it to the Japanese Shinto's...Bin Laden's and Saddam's terrorist network weren't the first quasi-religious fanatics to challenge US with homicide bombers, hell they weren't even the first to slam planes into US! We defeated the Shinto fanatics without destroying the Religion itself...and we will defeat these Islamic fanatics without destroying Islam itself. Japan polices itself, now fist-fights break out in the Japanese Parliment anytime the idea of deploying troops beyond their shores is brought up!

It's amazing the attitude adjustment that a stout ass-kicking will produce!

Earth by birth
American by the grace of God!

Cairo · 12-09-2002, 03:29 AM

Radar,
A court order is still required to judge the Constitutional Rights of the American citizen.
The Patriot Act gives our Government the tools it needs to take terrorists who want to kill US off our streets and stop them from killing US. So, if the Patriot Act stops one terrorist from killing you, me, the rest of New York...it has effectively upheld our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness. See?

All your other posts are excellent reads, I agree!!!!
LOL...These wankers actually think they are Libertarian, all the while, they spout Socialist mantra....what a hoot!

Cairo · 12-09-2002, 03:56 AM

Hermit22,
You say,"I think Healthcare is far too important to leave to the free market."
You do comprehend that the free market, as well as Bill Gates, are We the People of these United States, right?
Just like the DemocRATS stating that We the People are too stupid to handle 2% of our own Social Security, and that overcharging We the People doesn't merit a refund or "change back" because that money belongs to the Socialist Government now!!!! Hermit22 declares that We the People are not capable of taking care of ourselves without the proverbial Government rectal exam!

12-07-2002, 10:14 AM	#1
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	Radar you are an idiot. now where is that ignore button __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

12-07-2002, 10:34 AM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Guys, please let me know when my rants get that stupid... Dude fantasizes about being the first LP President when even LPers find him completely offensive. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-07-2002, 10:58 AM	#6
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	In my opinion, it's the delivery that makes a post offensive. If something is wonderfull to you, it's probably NOT to many others. Please explain in detail why you like it without making me sound like a dumbass for NOT liking it. Opinion is great but supprting opinion or supporting facts are better. When someone presents opinion as fact, it's annoying, not interesting. I really dont care what your opinion is, just dont bullshit me and yourself by posting it as divine wisdom. It's also helpful not to become<a href="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21b7c626/bc/numnuts.wav?bcihr89A.8vGZK5i"> confrontational</a> when attempting to make you point. So , I hope Radar and Cairo will continue contributing, I just wish they would improve the delivery so I can agree with them without looking like an ass. Last edited by slang; 12-07-2002 at 08:56 PM.

12-07-2002, 10:58 PM	#10
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Tob: The MSN api is availaible from msft. Doesn't mean your point is incorrect, just thought i'd point that out. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

12-08-2002, 05:35 PM	#12
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	No sorry, i meant the general chat one. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

12-07-2002, 10:21 AM	#2
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	" he wasnt asking for proof about bills charitable giving. he was asking for proof regarding all the other bullshit youve<a href="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21b7c626/bc/spew.wav?bchDi89AOk7ysQVg"> spewed</a> since arriving here. "

12-08-2002, 05:30 PM	#11
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	Which MSN API are you referring to? I'm talking about their NTLM email authentication protocol. You won't find a specification anywhere. Ditto for their proprietary SMB extensions.

12-09-2002, 03:02 AM	#13
Cairo Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 91	Hermit22, Your comprehension black outs seem intentional, since you are the only one "playing dumb" when it's convenient, then understanding fully when you wish to rebut! So when you "play dumb" I will reply "How convenient!" 1. How convenient! Charter 6 violations are suggestions by the UN to keep peace...Charter 7 violations are backed up with the use of force by UN members and they required unanamous votes... Israel has never violated Charter 7 resolutions, Iraq has! The UN is irrelevant and a joke, History has proven this. But I'm not going to let you get away with giving Saddam excuses and comfort he doesn't deserve, especially when it's idiots like you who demand that we jump through these irrlevant hoops in the first place!!!! I didn't call anyone vermin, my husband did... How convenient! 2. "Colorblind" when it comes to the truth? Hell YES! Colorful truths are lawyer-speak for defense lies! 3. Kashmir, Columbia, Israel, and America are all in the "During War" phase...if their enemy has not been defeated and still wants to defeat them, what do you call it? No, sometimes the State is under the impression that the enemy has surrendered, when in fact, he was buying time to get his ass out of the sling! 4. Hey little boy, I already am an active member of society, and have been since 1981...when your contributions amounted to about 7 diapers a day, right? How many employees do you have? How much in taxes do you contribute per year? How many houses, property, cars, stocks,and insurance policies have you paid for and OWNED?....None yet? THAT'S what I thought, little boy! Oh, my mind is open...just not to Socialism! Your mind(thanks to liberal indoctrination) is so open, your brains FELL OUT! That's not a good thing! Pour that in and swirl it around awhile! Yes, my husband used to think and act exactly like you. So much so, that he was about to join the French Foreign Legion and before that, held such little regard for human life, he carried a bullet for the purpose of suicide! Then we had children, and he says, the Lord found him and awakened his purpose. Now he spends everyday righting his past wrongs. You seem to be at your Anti-America stage of your life, my husband was there too...with age comes wisdom. 5. Wrong! The Parliment Lenin was going to install never came to be because he was shot in the neck! 6. How convenient! America would be a better place to live if some people had a sense of shame or guilt! A healthy fear of ostracism leads to individual accountability! 7. How convenient! They couldn't find a single trace of some 9/11 victims either, do we assume that they too are indeed alive as well? You don't understand what a bunker buster does to surrounding oxygen, do you? WOW! Stop the presses! I dare to disagree with our Government!...So sue me! 8. The Bush Administration has always claimed that Saddam has proven ties with terrorists, in fact, he IS A TERRORIST! Many other Countries say the same! The Bush Administration has also said from the beginning that some Countries will help US in secret for their own safety, the Czech Republic is one such Country, and President Bush will not, nor should he, betray their trust! When the Czech Republic says we can make the satellite tapes public, we will, otherwise the proof is a need to know basis...Countries who have come on board with US after being against, have seen the proof. Our own Congress, made an about face after perusing the proof! I'll side with the inner-circle who has all the intel available to them since I don't. 9. If you consider lawyer-speak, deception, and smooth talking like a cheating boyfriend trying to get you back is a "better speaker" then Bill"it depends on what the meaning of is, IS" Clinton is your guy! And Algore is such an IDIOT! In 1998 he said that regime change in Iraq was the only solution for Saddam...what's changed since '98, Al? IDIOT! Algore is a perfect example of our F-ed up "higher education"! And you are another for considering lying under oath in a court of law, and getting others to perjure in order to obstruct justice is "relatively trivial"! Breaking the law is only "relatively trivial" to CRIMINALS! 10. Excuse me Stalin, BUT Self-defense is not terrorism! "propaganda by deed" Indeed! Tell it to the Japanese Shinto's...Bin Laden's and Saddam's terrorist network weren't the first quasi-religious fanatics to challenge US with homicide bombers, hell they weren't even the first to slam planes into US! We defeated the Shinto fanatics without destroying the Religion itself...and we will defeat these Islamic fanatics without destroying Islam itself. Japan polices itself, now fist-fights break out in the Japanese Parliment anytime the idea of deploying troops beyond their shores is brought up! It's amazing the attitude adjustment that a stout ass-kicking will produce! Earth by birth American by the grace of God! __________________ ______________________________ The biggest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the World that he didn't exist. Keyser Soze

12-09-2002, 03:29 AM	#14
Cairo Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 91	Radar, A court order is still required to judge the Constitutional Rights of the American citizen. The Patriot Act gives our Government the tools it needs to take terrorists who want to kill US off our streets and stop them from killing US. So, if the Patriot Act stops one terrorist from killing you, me, the rest of New York...it has effectively upheld our Right to Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness. See? All your other posts are excellent reads, I agree!!!! LOL...These wankers actually think they are Libertarian, all the while, they spout Socialist mantra....what a hoot! __________________ ______________________________ The biggest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the World that he didn't exist. Keyser Soze

12-09-2002, 03:56 AM	#15
Cairo Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 91	Hermit22, You say,"I think Healthcare is far too important to leave to the free market." You do comprehend that the free market, as well as Bill Gates, are We the People of these United States, right? Just like the DemocRATS stating that We the People are too stupid to handle 2% of our own Social Security, and that overcharging We the People doesn't merit a refund or "change back" because that money belongs to the Socialist Government now!!!! Hermit22 declares that We the People are not capable of taking care of ourselves without the proverbial Government rectal exam! __________________ ______________________________ The biggest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the World that he didn't exist. Keyser Soze

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