Interesting graphs and charts department - Page 183

xoxoxoBruce · 03-15-2020, 01:12 AM

We had 2 Betsys and several Carols... oh, and some Karens also.

I saw a video of foreign born residents in the US from 1850 up. I grabbed these screenshots
because it started with Irish miles ahead but coming upon WW I and WW II the large Italian
and German born must have caused some concern.

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The other thing was Mexico lagged. On the list in 1902, didn't pass the Irish until 1940,
and Russians in 1963, but grabbed the lead in 1971 and skyrocketed.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Cu3VGdq3A

xoxoxoBruce · 03-22-2020, 01:18 AM

Seattle is too wet, it rains all the time...

Flint · 03-22-2020, 02:14 AM

It doesn't rain hard in the Pacific Northwest, except for a few days out of the year. But for about 9 months there is a continuous, very fine mist.
Not a lot of "inches" but when it hits you sideways in the face, you have to wipe your face off with a towel every time you make it back to your car.

Flint · 03-24-2020, 02:05 PM

People are talking about Trump's approval rating in regards to the pandemic.
Is it going up, going down? Nope, still a flat line:

xoxoxoBruce · 03-24-2020, 02:15 PM

Changing position equals admitting you were wrong. That must be avoided at all costs.

BigV · 03-24-2020, 02:42 PM

Avoided? Like avoiding sprouting wings and flying around the room? Both are equally likely, equally fantastic. Neither will ever happen.

Undertoad · 03-24-2020, 04:12 PM

If people are changing position, the graph sure doesn't show it

very quickly, because it is a running average of polls taken over time; we will need to wait another week to see if anyone's position has changed during the last few days

tw · 03-24-2020, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

If people are changing position, the graph sure doesn't show it

He could rape a woman on 5th Ave and still get elected president. Says how entrenched his support is. Facts don't matter to adults who are emotional. For the same reason so many were convinced Challenger was an accident. When not one engineer said it was safe to launch.

Propaganda - not facts - are what many believe - religiously.

God said it true. So it must be. God said so. That proves it.

What has happened in the past few days that would change anything?

Undertoad · 03-24-2020, 05:25 PM

Well, no particular one of us can say. Only the graph can say, if it says anything.

tw · 03-24-2020, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Only the graph can say, if it says anything.

It does say one thing. It did not take very long for many people to suddenly discover how unpopular he is.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-24-2020, 06:01 PM

I'm hearing, "He's a disappointment, he's a pig, he's a clown, but I have to vote Republican."
I just shake my head in disbelief.

Flint · 03-25-2020, 02:35 PM

Things are lookin' great! USA is truly the best at everything.

Undertoad · 03-25-2020, 03:09 PM

Chart was as of 3/8. Listed US number (1,707 tests) is CDC tests only, when most testing was not done by CDC! Other public health labs had tested about 9,000 by March 8. (source, CDC)

If Business Insider told me that my fly was open, I would not even bother to look down.

Now, the tweet is as of today: 3/25. US has currently tested 400,474 (via COVID Tracking Project)

Business Insider is fake news. Tweet is accurate.

-- signed, your official Donald J. Trump Apologist

Flint · 03-25-2020, 03:19 PM

The only thing I really wanted to say is, "tests per million" is a smart statistic, while "total number" of tests is a dumb statistic. Trump's "information" is truly meaningless-- 1) comparing the flat total from two different-sized populations, 2) over two arbitrary periods of time.

I could pick eight days from any country where they did more tests than eight weeks from any other country. It's actually the same problem you've pointed out (tweet and article from incomparable times, thus meaningless).

Undertoad · 03-25-2020, 04:06 PM

But, for the same reason, "tests per million" varies according to when measured. Early in the curve, you don't have as many people to actually test.

But as of Mar. 25, the US has tested 1217 per million. If currently graphed like B.I. did, the US would be 3rd.

03-15-2020, 01:12 AM	#2731
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	We had 2 Betsys and several Carols... oh, and some Karens also. I saw a video of foreign born residents in the US from 1850 up. I grabbed these screenshots because it started with Irish miles ahead but coming upon WW I and WW II the large Italian and German born must have caused some concern. The other thing was Mexico lagged. On the list in 1902, didn't pass the Irish until 1940, and Russians in 1963, but grabbed the lead in 1971 and skyrocketed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Cu3VGdq3A __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-22-2020, 01:18 AM	#2732
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Seattle is too wet, it rains all the time... Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-22-2020, 02:14 AM	#2733
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	It doesn't rain hard in the Pacific Northwest, except for a few days out of the year. But for about 9 months there is a continuous, very fine mist. Not a lot of "inches" but when it hits you sideways in the face, you have to wipe your face off with a towel every time you make it back to your car. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-24-2020, 02:05 PM	#2734
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	People are talking about Trump's approval rating in regards to the pandemic. Is it going up, going down? Nope, still a flat line: Attached Images __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-24-2020, 02:15 PM	#2735
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Changing position equals admitting you were wrong. That must be avoided at all costs. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-24-2020, 02:42 PM	#2736
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Avoided? Like avoiding sprouting wings and flying around the room? Both are equally likely, equally fantastic. Neither will ever happen. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

03-24-2020, 04:12 PM	#2737
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	If people are changing position, the graph sure doesn't show it very quickly, because it is a running average of polls taken over time; we will need to wait another week to see if anyone's position has changed during the last few days

03-24-2020, 05:25 PM	#2739
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Well, no particular one of us can say. Only the graph can say, if it says anything.

03-24-2020, 06:01 PM	#2741
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'm hearing, "He's a disappointment, he's a pig, he's a clown, but I have to vote Republican." I just shake my head in disbelief. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-25-2020, 02:35 PM	#2742
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Things are lookin' great! USA is truly the best at everything. Attached Images __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-25-2020, 03:09 PM	#2743
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Chart was as of 3/8. Listed US number (1,707 tests) is CDC tests only, when most testing was not done by CDC! Other public health labs had tested about 9,000 by March 8. (source, CDC) If Business Insider told me that my fly was open, I would not even bother to look down. Now, the tweet is as of today: 3/25. US has currently tested 400,474 (via COVID Tracking Project) Business Insider is fake news. Tweet is accurate. -- signed, your official Donald J. Trump Apologist

03-25-2020, 03:19 PM	#2744
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	The only thing I really wanted to say is, "tests per million" is a smart statistic, while "total number" of tests is a dumb statistic. Trump's "information" is truly meaningless-- 1) comparing the flat total from two different-sized populations, 2) over two arbitrary periods of time. I could pick eight days from any country where they did more tests than eight weeks from any other country. It's actually the same problem you've pointed out (tweet and article from incomparable times, thus meaningless). __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-25-2020, 04:06 PM	#2745
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	But, for the same reason, "tests per million" varies according to when measured. Early in the curve, you don't have as many people to actually test. But as of Mar. 25, the US has tested 1217 per million. If currently graphed like B.I. did, the US would be 3rd.

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