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Old 01-13-2020, 03:03 PM   #16
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After Soleimani’s death, Instagram shuts down Iranian accounts

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At least fifteen Iranian journalists have reported having their accounts suspended, according to the International Federation of Journalists. Government-owned and Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-affiliated media agencies such as Tasnim News Agency, the Iran Newspaper and Jamaran News all had their accounts, with a combined hundreds of thousands of followers, removed entirely by Instagram. “This poses an immediate threat to freedom of information in Iran,” the International Federation of Journalists said in a statement.
But did it affect just the official Iranian news agencies? Of course not!

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Iranian influencers, human rights advocates, and activists are also experiencing account shutdowns.

“It’s very widespread, it’s huge,” said Amir Rashidi, an Iran internet security and digital rights researcher based in New York, who watched on Instagram as account after account in Iran was shut down or had posts removed after users discussed the killing. “Every person I saw that posted about Soleimani on Instagram, almost all of their posts have been removed.”
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Old 01-13-2020, 08:15 PM   #17
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Troubling. Good lord.
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Old 01-16-2020, 07:49 PM   #18
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Here's a real world example from 2019. 1) YouTube gets bad press because stories say it has Nazis. 2) YouTube advertisers panic. 3) YouTube modifies its algorithm to demonetize, and never recommend, all videos that contain the word "Nazi". 4) All history-teaching and anti-Nazi videos that mention the word are demonetized and never recommended.
YouTube has now censored the very anti-Nazi 1943 Frank Capra documentary "Prelude to War".

It was financed by the US Gov, shown to all soldiers.

The uploader was well-known internet archivist Carl Malamud.

It's important historical material.

The automatic ban survived a manual appeals process, which means it was reviewed by a human reviewer and judged to be in Violation of the YouTube Community Guidelines.
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Old 01-16-2020, 07:57 PM   #19
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History, deny it, it never happened.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:10 PM   #20
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History, deny it, it never happened.
Read books (before the Firemen come).
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:16 AM   #21
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It would appear, we are fucking this up.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:49 PM   #22
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It's a byproduct of AI's one-algorithm-fits-all solutions. Them's the rules, baby, no exceptions, no borderline cases, black of white, live or die. Law & order has no room for justice.
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:03 PM   #23
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The Nerd City video worked out that the algorithms are being trained by offshore workers in third world countries.

Such as this one, I'm betting:

The automatic ban survived a manual appeals process, which means it was reviewed by a human reviewer and judged to be in Violation of the YouTube Community Guidelines.

Once the ban is human-reviewed, it's more permanent and will be used by the algorithm going forward.
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:15 PM   #24
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So some human says, yup, has the word Nazi, ban it.
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:42 PM   #25
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Some human, possibly ESL, from a different culture...
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Old 01-18-2020, 12:40 AM   #26
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ESL = English as a Second Language, had to Google it, too many abbreviations and acronyms.
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Old 01-20-2020, 05:09 PM   #27
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So maybe the free market isn't as free as it sounds.
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:01 PM   #28
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What 'free market'?

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Old 01-21-2020, 12:05 PM   #29
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A free market has never existed and cannot exist, for the exact same reason that communism doesn't work in practice.

This social media weirdness is a prime example of this.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:16 PM   #30
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Luce, you got some splainin' to do.

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*A free market has never existed and cannot exist, for the exact same reason that **communism doesn't work in practice.

This social media weirdness is a prime example of this.
*Why?

**Why?
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