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Old 10-15-2006, 11:59 PM   #16
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although he might if I asked him to.

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Old 10-16-2006, 12:09 AM   #17
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maybe what bothers me the most about your tone is the assumed stance that sex is bad. 'judging women by their (this is the correct usage of the possesive form of the word, btw) sexual history' sounds like you have a preconception that the more sex a person has had, the harder it would be to justify having a relationship with them.

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Ignorance maybe bliss but people really don't change. As the old saying goes, the more things change the more things stay the same. What really changes is opportunities. When your young you have greater opportunities than when you get older.

Age is NOT an excuse.

It’s about character.
so this means that old porn stars are of inferior character, and if given the chance, they'll what? have an orgie behind your back? i assume someone cheated on you? was she a big whore?
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:12 AM   #18
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l~snip~ To be honest though, I don't think he'd ever want to have sex with another woman, ~snip~
you misspelled deluded.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:40 AM   #19
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Perhaps you are underestimating the powers of Aliantha...
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Old 10-16-2006, 05:31 AM   #20
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Old 10-16-2006, 05:42 AM   #21
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... but after they get that off there flat chests and school boy snickering lets see some real digging here.
Can't help here, my chest hasn't been flat since I was 15. If gender isn't too important I can join in the snickering though.

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Would you marry and look at a porn star as a future wife and mother of your children?
Sorry folks, got to agree with bmwmcaw there. I am highly unlikely to marry a porn star and let her be the Mother of my children.
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:56 AM   #22
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Questions for bmwmcaw:

1) Would you marry a drug addict or alcoholic who had no sexual history?

2) Would you marry a virgin with a mental disease such as schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder?

3) Would you marry a woman with a violent past but who had never engaged in sexual activity?

4) Would you marry a member of a cult such as Scientology or Satanism but who had never had sex?


The point of these questions is that I think you are attaching way too much significance to a relatively minor part of what makes up a person. Being a virgin does not guarantee that a woman will be a good mother and wife. Nor does it guarantee that she will not cheat on you. Much more important is that the woman in question is loving, self-respecting as well as respectful of others, self-confident, empathetic, kind and has the same moral values as you do. If you find someone like that, chances are excellent that she will be faithful and raise happy, healthy children.

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Old 10-16-2006, 08:01 AM   #23
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Hmmm - I find it rather interesting that BM has these firm unyielding stances on the issue, yet also an utter refusal to admit what we all think may be the reason behind his "opinion". "someone cheated on you? was she a big whore?" lumberjim

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Old 10-16-2006, 09:50 AM   #24
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Can't give an honest answer. Never met one!

Odds of me ever meeting one? Zero percent.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:13 AM   #25
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The question isn't whether I would marry a porn star, but whether I would be attracted to one in the first place. I wouldn't, personally. I've dated 2 strippers (pardon, DANCErs), and they weren't nearly the well-adjusted free spirits they always want people to think they are. Doesn't mean they aren't valuable as people. But they got issues.

I couldn't be truly intimate with someone who is currently having sex with strangers for money.

I could theoretically be intimate with someone who used to be a porn star, but they would have to be clearly and completely done with that phase of their life.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:17 AM   #26
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If I fell for her and we both tested negative, sure, no problem.
Thing is, I don't think porn or sex for fun are immoral, so I'm not the right person to ask your, obviously, loaded question to.
 
Old 10-16-2006, 10:20 AM   #27
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btw, it's clear that bmw has women issues, but the point of view he's expressing isn't nearly as hateful as you're making it out to be. If you act as judgemental as he does, how are you better? There's a lot of anger there, it would be worth the discussion to find out more about it rather than defaulting to snide one-liners and harumphs. Misogyny can be caused by things other than "he's just an asshole".
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:22 AM   #28
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so your contention....to take it to the extreme, as you did.....is that the only suitable spouse is a virgin?

I'm sorry, but you are beginning seem like a tool
That wasn't the question.

Read the post.
 
Old 10-16-2006, 10:24 AM   #29
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Thing is, I don't think porn or sex for fun are immoral, so I'm not the right person to ask your, obviously, loaded question to.
I'm the opposite. I think porn and sex for fun are not only immoral, but have quite possibly done more damage to individuals' lives and society at large than anything else. Wherever you find a sex crime, you find porn somewhere in the mix. Porn is dehumanizing, and it perpetuates the idea that you can fuck anyone at anytime with no mental, spiritual, or social consequences. Tain't so.


lol taint.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:54 AM   #30
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Questions for bmwmcaw:

1) Would you marry a drug addict or alcoholic who had no sexual history?

2) Would you marry a virgin with a mental disease such as schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder?

3) Would you marry a woman with a violent past but who had never engaged in sexual activity?

4) Would you marry a member of a cult such as Scientology or Satanism but who had never had sex?


The point of these questions is that I think you are attaching way too much significance to a relatively minor part of what makes up a person. Being a virgin does not guarantee that a woman will be a good mother and wife. Nor does it guarantee that she will not cheat on you. Much more important is that the woman in question is loving, self-respecting as well as respectful of others, self-confident, empathetic, kind and has the same moral values as you do. If you find someone like that, chances are excellent that she will be faithful and raise happy, healthy children.

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Its about character.

Why is it people seem so ready to disregard a persons character. No matter what your history is, it is part of who YOU are. If you or anyone else looks past it and feel comfortable with it then more power to you.

Your history matters because it is and always will be the best guide to your future. You are what you think and what you think determines what choices you make.

Being a virgin is IRRELAVANT!

People can run but cannot hide from their past. Under stress every human being reverts to their basic personality. All the layers of conditioned responses and masks we wear fall by the wayside. Your social and economic up bringing, your parents education level, the mentors or people you looked too to form the person you are, your self-images and your choices.

That’s why the question is asked in the first place on this string and others. Does sexual history matter and like everything else in life it does.

People on this board have evaded the issue or tried by belittlement of the topic or me, but the facts and the obvious cannot be denied. To do so is at your own peril. The divorce rate and broken families in the country is an indication of the level of denial that we have wittiness and read on this message board. The media glamorizes sex to the point where it seems as cheap and easy as changing underwear. It would seem the marketers of sex have a cadre' of followers on this board.

Sex without love is hollow and vacant. Love without faith, without commitment, without respect, now that’s what leads to meaningless sexual relationships that decay ones soul and denies a future partner that special uniqueness. To abstract sex cheapens everyone. That’s not me saying that; listen to your own heart.

Justify, rationalize, make light of won’t change what you feel in your heart and see in your soul.

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