Shows you are ashamed of... (bad TV not-so-anonymous) - Page 2

JayMcGee · 12-03-2006, 06:45 PM

Battlestar I kept watching, thinking 'it surely must get better...'

but it didn't. I think I prefer the original - at least it was unpretentious hokum-pokum.

Babylon 5 and Farscape are probally the best TV Sci-Fi shows to-date. Firefly could have been interesting, but the movie 'Serenity' was far, far, better.

as for non-SF shows, for sheer 'my brain needs a rest - popcorn munchin' escapism' I've always liked stuff like 'the sweeney, the professionals, hill st blues' et al

Ibby · 12-03-2006, 07:17 PM

Gilmore Girls.

Witty, well-written, VERY musically hip... but still, its the fucking Gilmore Girls.

SteveDallas · 12-03-2006, 07:47 PM

Wait, you're fucking the Gilmore Girls?!?!?

(Come on, you know somebody had to say it.)

Pie · 12-03-2006, 08:31 PM

B5 and Firefly didn't make the list because I'm not ashamed of them. They both effin' rock!

bluecuracao · 12-03-2006, 08:42 PM

I'm another Project Runway and Top Chef fan. I used to love Isaac (fashion designer Isaac Mizrahi's talk show), but they got rid of the band and Giovanni the barrista this season, so no more. The most embarrassing one was Ice-T's Rap School on VH1.

Ibby · 12-03-2006, 08:48 PM

Firefly, I forgot that one. I'm ashamed of it, because Joss Whedon = the devil.

wolf · 12-03-2006, 08:55 PM

I'm going to go and watch The Rat Patrol. In Color.

I just got the Season 1 DVD set.

I think that counts for this thread.

Oh yeah, and I loved The Man from U.N.C.L.E.

There is a lot of 60s and 70s TV of questionable artistic merit that I love.

Like Batman and The Green Hornet. Some time last year one of the Encore channels (either Action or Mystery) was running Green Hornet episodes. I think, though, that like The Avengers, these shows have a certain kitschy-ness that makes them okay to like.

zippyt · 12-03-2006, 09:06 PM

The Green Hornet.

I met The Green Hornet AND KATO once and SOME were I have an autograph from them both !!!

12-03-2006, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Why is everyone (except wolf) ashamed to watch science fiction? What's wrong with you all?

I am not ashamed to watch SF... just poorly acted/written SF.

richlevy · 12-04-2006, 12:55 AM

Back in the day - Get Smart. ...and loving it.

DanaC · 12-04-2006, 04:02 AM

I love the new Battlestar! I think they've done some really interesting things with it. The choice to make Starbuck a girl, but keep many of the rogueish elements of the character was a good call. I also think it's of a high quality in terms of script writing and acting. What was particularly brave, imo, is that they broke away from the adage that a TV show should be accessible at any point that you come into it. I came into the show about a third of the way through the first series and was totally lost for two episodes. I knew what I was watching was good, that the character interaction was believable and complex......but I was also very confused. I then started to piece it together and eventually downloaded the mini-series and first couple of episodes to fill in the gaps. Most programmes you can come in to any episode in the series and all the pieces fit together within that first viewing.

I am absolutely not ashamed to like Battlstar.....nor am i ashamed to like Sci-fi. I used to have loads of arguments with Judah's dad about sci-fi and its potential worth as an art form. (he is a playwrite). I read and watch all sorts of stuff, from 'high culture' to pulp novels. I don't see that sci-fi is any less valid as an art form than books like Wuthering Heights and the plays of Ibsen. It just operates along different lines and criteria. Some of the finest novels I have ever read have been science fiction, and they dealt with the 'big issues'. Some of the worst novels i have ever read have also been sci-fi, but then again some of the most unreadable and unengaging stuff I've ever read has been so called 'literature'.

I am slightly shamefaced about my love for 'Cadfael' though :P

Happy Monkey · 12-04-2006, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I am not ashamed to watch SF... just poorly acted/written SF.

But then you listed SG1 and Galactica. SG1 is OK, but in no way embarassing, and Galactica is excellent in both writing and acting.

Spexxvet · 12-04-2006, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt

The Green Hornet.

I met The Green Hornet AND KATO once and SOME were I have an autograph from them both !!!

Kato was Bruce Lee, in the TV series. I love it, too

Southpark.

Kung Fu - watched it new, will watch it anytime I run across it, now.

JayMcGee · 12-04-2006, 07:28 PM

ah, grasshopper....... loved that series. Also 'Monkey' and 'The Water margin'.... now, Monkey was kitsch!

@DanaC - have you been watchng the SCi-Fi Brittannia stuff on Beeb 4? Some good stuff in there.

DanaC · 12-04-2006, 07:29 PM

Yes I have! It's been a brilliant series. And some of the reshowings have been a delight.

12-03-2006, 06:45 PM	#16
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	Battlestar I kept watching, thinking 'it surely must get better...' but it didn't. I think I prefer the original - at least it was unpretentious hokum-pokum. Babylon 5 and Farscape are probally the best TV Sci-Fi shows to-date. Firefly could have been interesting, but the movie 'Serenity' was far, far, better. as for non-SF shows, for sheer 'my brain needs a rest - popcorn munchin' escapism' I've always liked stuff like 'the sweeney, the professionals, hill st blues' et al __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

12-03-2006, 07:17 PM	#17
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Gilmore Girls. Witty, well-written, VERY musically hip... but still, its the fucking Gilmore Girls. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

12-03-2006, 08:31 PM	#19
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	B5 and Firefly didn't make the list because I'm not ashamed of them. They both effin' rock! __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

12-03-2006, 08:48 PM	#21
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Firefly, I forgot that one. I'm ashamed of it, because Joss Whedon = the devil. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

12-03-2006, 08:55 PM	#22
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I'm going to go and watch The Rat Patrol. In Color. I just got the Season 1 DVD set. I think that counts for this thread. Oh yeah, and I loved The Man from U.N.C.L.E. There is a lot of 60s and 70s TV of questionable artistic merit that I love. Like Batman and The Green Hornet. Some time last year one of the Encore channels (either Action or Mystery) was running Green Hornet episodes. I think, though, that like The Avengers, these shows have a certain kitschy-ness that makes them okay to like. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-03-2006, 07:47 PM	#18
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Wait, you're fucking the Gilmore Girls?!?!? (Come on, you know somebody had to say it.)

12-03-2006, 08:42 PM	#20
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	I'm another Project Runway and Top Chef fan. I used to love Isaac (fashion designer Isaac Mizrahi's talk show), but they got rid of the band and Giovanni the barrista this season, so no more. The most embarrassing one was Ice-T's Rap School on VH1.

12-03-2006, 09:06 PM	#23
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	The Green Hornet. I met The Green Hornet AND KATO once and SOME were I have an autograph from them both !!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

12-04-2006, 12:55 AM	#25
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Back in the day - Get Smart. ...and loving it. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

12-04-2006, 04:02 AM	#26
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I love the new Battlestar! I think they've done some really interesting things with it. The choice to make Starbuck a girl, but keep many of the rogueish elements of the character was a good call. I also think it's of a high quality in terms of script writing and acting. What was particularly brave, imo, is that they broke away from the adage that a TV show should be accessible at any point that you come into it. I came into the show about a third of the way through the first series and was totally lost for two episodes. I knew what I was watching was good, that the character interaction was believable and complex......but I was also very confused. I then started to piece it together and eventually downloaded the mini-series and first couple of episodes to fill in the gaps. Most programmes you can come in to any episode in the series and all the pieces fit together within that first viewing. I am absolutely not ashamed to like Battlstar.....nor am i ashamed to like Sci-fi. I used to have loads of arguments with Judah's dad about sci-fi and its potential worth as an art form. (he is a playwrite). I read and watch all sorts of stuff, from 'high culture' to pulp novels. I don't see that sci-fi is any less valid as an art form than books like Wuthering Heights and the plays of Ibsen. It just operates along different lines and criteria. Some of the finest novels I have ever read have been science fiction, and they dealt with the 'big issues'. Some of the worst novels i have ever read have also been sci-fi, but then again some of the most unreadable and unengaging stuff I've ever read has been so called 'literature'. I am slightly shamefaced about my love for 'Cadfael' though :P

12-04-2006, 07:28 PM	#29
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	ah, grasshopper....... loved that series. Also 'Monkey' and 'The Water margin'.... now, Monkey was kitsch! @DanaC - have you been watchng the SCi-Fi Brittannia stuff on Beeb 4? Some good stuff in there. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

12-04-2006, 07:29 PM	#30
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Yes I have! It's been a brilliant series. And some of the reshowings have been a delight.

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