Longing for the day when this will not matter - Page 2

piercehawkeye45 · 01-22-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Would it be newsworthy if an NBA team fielded and all-white starting 5?

That is a lot different. A coach is a figure of authority and wisdom, which is more important symbolically than just an athlete. Whether we like it or not, we are still in a civil rights transition and we still have institutional racism everywhere. Like I said before, this is a lot bigger event for the black community than it is for the white community.

Happy Monkey · 01-22-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Would it be newsworthy if an NBA team fielded and all-white starting 5?

Maybe, but it wouldn't be a "first".

xoxoxoBruce · 01-22-2007, 06:15 PM

I think part of the reason this became news, is there are a million sports writers and news reporters trying to dig up some angle on the Super Bowl. With all the hype every year, it's pretty hard to say anything that hasn't been said three times before.

ferret88 · 01-23-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

With all the hype every year, it's pretty hard to say anything that hasn't been said three times before.

But that won't stop those same things from STILL being said over and over and over and over and over...

yesman065 · 01-23-2007, 11:40 AM

Ya know, I was thinking bout this while driving in today, and for me this is a total non story. I wondered why manyt others are making such an issue of it and not me. Then I realized that its because their race as never an issue to me at all. I guess what I'm saying is I never took into account their race cuz it doesn't matter to me. I think "Good coach" and others think "Black head coach" - thats totally lame. You outta be ashamed. My god its 2007 not 1957.

yesman065 · 01-23-2007, 11:41 AM

You = you (who think this way) in general; not you specific

piercehawkeye45 · 01-23-2007, 01:57 PM

It obviously isn't an issue to you yesman because it doesn't affect you. I don't see "Black head coach" either but I realize that blacks do look up to Lovie and Dungy and it is good for the black community for them to get some credit. We do still have a lot of racism in the United States and I'm not just talking about the South.

01-23-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

What he *is* is a Democrat.

If you vote for him you better hide your guns and report them stolen. The "first 100 hours" are already loaded with stealth gun-grabber bills trying to slam-dunk their way onto the books. If your concern about PATRIOT is privacy, check our what's on the way masquerading as an "improvement" in NICS.

Did you read the quote of mine you used?
I did not state that it was my only criteria, not all Democrats are against gun ownership.
Being from the Deep South, most of ours are against gun control.

yesman065 · 01-23-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

It obviously isn't an issue to you yesman because it doesn't affect you.

No, PH that is not right, its not an issue to me because I don't see them as black, because I see them as men. Those who see their color are the ones who have issues. Yes, there is plenty of racism in the world, but by making a big deal out of the fact that they are black only perpetuates the problem.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-23-2007, 03:44 PM

Of course you don't see him as black but other blacks will see him as black. That is why it is important for them. I don't like this either but we need to take this step before we get to equality.

yesman065 · 01-23-2007, 04:46 PM

I understand where you are coming from, but I am past that. I just wish more people were.

It's sad that 2 football coaches have to be some type of examples of this though.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-23-2007, 06:32 PM

What I see around this area, more than real dyed in the wool racism, is when the Eagles win, Donovan McNabb is a great quarterback, but when they lose, McNabb is a dumb nigger. I don't think it's real, hate racism, as much as reaching for something hateful to say that would be sure to offend McNabb if he heard it. Of course he won't and they know it.

Now I can't possibly know what these guys are thinking, but I do know they don't seem to be racist the rest of the time, in word or deed. They get along with black people they work with, play with and live next to, so I think they are just letting off steam when they say that. They do the same for Spics, Krauts, Pollacks, Chinks, Dagos and everybody else.

Griff · 01-24-2007, 06:35 AM

Philly sport fans reserve the right to hate regardless of race creed or national origin.

yesman065 · 01-24-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Philly sport fans reserve the right to hate regardless of race creed or national origin.

You got that right Griff - they're "equal opportunity" haters. They hate everyone.

Spexxvet · 01-24-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

You got that right Griff - they're "equal opportunity" haters. They hate everyone.

Not true. They looooves the underdogs. Jim Eisenreich was a favorite because he played better and did things that nobody really expected him to do. Fans didn't like Mike Schmidt because he didn't live up to fan expectations (which was perfection. After all he was Mike Scmidt).

In other words, if you are expected to play at a level 4, and play like an 7, Philadelphia fans love you. If you are expected to play at a level 9, and play like a 7, they think you suck. Yeah, two guys playing at the same level...

01-22-2007, 06:15 PM	#18
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I think part of the reason this became news, is there are a million sports writers and news reporters trying to dig up some angle on the Super Bowl. With all the hype every year, it's pretty hard to say anything that hasn't been said three times before. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-23-2007, 06:32 PM	#27
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	What I see around this area, more than real dyed in the wool racism, is when the Eagles win, Donovan McNabb is a great quarterback, but when they lose, McNabb is a dumb nigger. I don't think it's real, hate racism, as much as reaching for something hateful to say that would be sure to offend McNabb if he heard it. Of course he won't and they know it. Now I can't possibly know what these guys are thinking, but I do know they don't seem to be racist the rest of the time, in word or deed. They get along with black people they work with, play with and live next to, so I think they are just letting off steam when they say that. They do the same for Spics, Krauts, Pollacks, Chinks, Dagos and everybody else. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-24-2007, 06:35 AM	#28
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Philly sport fans reserve the right to hate regardless of race creed or national origin. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-23-2007, 11:40 AM	#20
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Ya know, I was thinking bout this while driving in today, and for me this is a total non story. I wondered why manyt others are making such an issue of it and not me. Then I realized that its because their race as never an issue to me at all. I guess what I'm saying is I never took into account their race cuz it doesn't matter to me. I think "Good coach" and others think "Black head coach" - thats totally lame. You outta be ashamed. My god its 2007 not 1957.

01-23-2007, 11:41 AM	#21
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	You = you (who think this way) in general; not you specific

01-23-2007, 01:57 PM	#22
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	It obviously isn't an issue to you yesman because it doesn't affect you. I don't see "Black head coach" either but I realize that blacks do look up to Lovie and Dungy and it is good for the black community for them to get some credit. We do still have a lot of racism in the United States and I'm not just talking about the South.

01-23-2007, 03:44 PM	#25
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Of course you don't see him as black but other blacks will see him as black. That is why it is important for them. I don't like this either but we need to take this step before we get to equality.

01-23-2007, 04:46 PM	#26
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	I understand where you are coming from, but I am past that. I just wish more people were. It's sad that 2 football coaches have to be some type of examples of this though.

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