Sad Reality

[icileparadise]

I really don't wish to be rude because I have exactly the same feelings as all you above posted - it's just that I work with children with mental and behavouril handicaps but it often stikes me as odd how we as humans feel so intensly for the plight of puppies and kittens and little tortoises, birds etc when we steel our emotions for our own kind. I've seen hard men bawl like babies for a dead dog and stand dignified for a dead relative. Just asking anyone how do we do that? Why do we do that? It is an answer I need to understand if anyone could provide it I'd be grateful. Thanks.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Becouse dogs are better than people, it's a greater loss.

[icileparadise]

Funny. Guys I'm serious - it's one of lifes things please comment usefully.

[Cloud]

I wonder why black puppies aren't adoptable?

[Clodfobble]

Because most people's relatives are jerks?

[Cicero]

Because the dog was man's best friend?

[Cloud]

-because it's socially acceptable to go ga-ga over pets; because one can't possibly expend emotional coin on every single injustice in the world; and because people are jerks, especially to each other, and animals usually aren't

[icileparadise]

Now you just sound bitter Cloud, are you hanging on to you guns and religious beliefs? Shoot the dying pet and bury with all dignity the dead relative. Life is full of contradictions as far as I have witnessed. Once a friend of mine (in the U.K.) had his cat knocked down outside his house when his daughter came rushing in and declared the fact. He calmly went onto the road picked up the dead cat and put it into the trash can. He had a large back garden and the said cat grew up with his two daughters. We ate dinner knowing the cat was in the trash. He was a singularly humourless bastard from my reckoning on.

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by icileparadise

He calmly went onto the road picked up the dead cat and put it into the trash can. He had a large back garden and the said cat grew up with his two daughters. We ate dinner knowing the cat was in the trash. He was a singularly humourless bastard from my reckoning on.

Ok now you are saying there isn't enough compassion for animals. Which is it? What lofty principle are you standing on here, because you seem to have two opposing arguements.

What in the hell is the question?

[icileparadise]

I don't want to upset anyone but it intrigues me how us humans feel so compassionatly for pets when we are so quiet and dignified about human troubles and am not speaking about human deaths. We seem to steel ourselves about the courage of humans but when it come to little or big animals we lose it. Now Cicero you are a woman of life bear with me I just wish to know how and why we humans make this disitinction. For example I was with my infant daughter in a park one day when she had to really take a crap and I held her under a tree with broken ground under it to do it and some people said to us to go to a toilet or use a diaper. I said to them coz they had a dog like your dog pisses and craps in a public toilet instead of all over the place.

We look at animals differently. That's all I'm saying. I have a blind woman lives near me and her Guide Dog is astonishing; it crosses a really busy road for her and acts like a human in every caring sense. I am astonished how a dog can be so trained in a way that we can't. It's never distracted even by other dogs. Fascinating.

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by icileparadise

Cicero you are a woman of life bear with me I just wish to know how and why we humans make this disitinction.

I honestly read this over and over as: Cicero you are a woman of life bear, with me, I just want to know how and why we humans make this distinction.
lol!
Now I got ya!!



The reason why we make this distinction is the same reason why people don't like to watch your infant poo in public parks. We are supposed to have reasoning on our side, and be civilized.

People act out of grief or compassion in many different ways. If we weren't forced to show respect at funerals and be somber, we would be wallowing all over the caskets and flowers..not giving anyone a quiet moment of reflection for the person they also lost.

Dog deaths are less formal unless you are talking about our dog chamois that we bought a funeral plot for in a respectable pet cemetary that had a somber respectable funeral.

Example Dog: As soon as I saw my puppy dead in the street as it had been run over by a car, I dropped to my knees to pick it up, and could not see where I was carrying it because my eyes were full of tears. I was in shock and heaving, and sobbing all at the same time. It (he) as in, Astro, was limp in my arms as I carried it (he) as in, Astro, home in a massive state of dramatic grief.

Example Human: When I saw that my friend was showcased on the nightly news as dead, I went to his house, and saw no one was home. I dropped to my knees in the street and pounded my fist into the pavement, heaved, and sobbed. My friend had to pull me into her car as I was in a massive state of dramatic grief and quit functioning.

I don't do that at funerals.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by icileparadise

I don't want to upset anyone but it intrigues me how us humans feel so compassionatly for pets when we are so quiet and dignified about human troubles and am not speaking about human deaths. We seem to steel ourselves about the courage of humans but when it come to little or big animals we lose it.

Because that is the custom where you, and I, live, doesn't make it a universal truth. In many parts of the world, animals are viewed as food or tools, only.

We look at animals differently. That's all I'm saying. I have a blind woman lives near me and her Guide Dog is astonishing; it crosses a really busy road for her and acts like a human in every caring sense.

No, it acts like a dog... faithful and dedicated to please it's human. That's why losing such a friend is so painful.

[skysidhe]

For the above reasons and more.

Dogs and small animals are helpless. We don't have mass state funding to care for them. We have to rely on the ability of people to neuter, to care about puppy mills, and stop putting cute baby animals in easter baskets.

[Cloud]

uh, what? my guns and religious beliefs? not my scene.

people are jerks, and worse. people are also wonderful and caring. Sometimes even the same people at the same time.

[icileparadise]

Sorry you said black puppies. I was alluding to Obamas gaff about Pensylvannians being BITTER. My bad, please excuse me.