Hey! Did you ever want to go to the Creationist Museum but couldnt find the time?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

I have not been educated within any religious framework, so I'm hoping someone can clarify what the work "holiness" means, at least within this context.

Hmm. Tough. That you have to ask may mean you'd never know.

But.

There is that which is godly, and there is that which is not. At the least. That's the simplest. Falsehood, well, that is not godly. Godhead may of itself make falsehood impossible. Though there is empirical evidence all around that truth is not necessarily obvious, nor laid bare. The ontological universe in which we live remains subtle, whether we like it or not. We who ruminate upon matters philosophic should take a lesson in that.

Another lesson may be drawn: if Godhead makes falsity impossible, it's an illustration of just how far from Godhead we mortals really are. Definitely deflates the ol' hubris.

[Happy Monkey]

Other than the timeframe, Genesis has the order wrong. Stars predate Earth, let alone grass and fruit.

[Bruce 9012]

I'm a belliever wow.

[Bruce 9012]

I f*&k up every post somehow
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[Ruminator]

HLJ, God's personal character that is defined as His holiness is virtually impossible for humans with limited speech to fully describe. I'll make a separate thread for it as soon as I can.
Meantime, holiness refers at once to His perfect, pure sinlessness.
God is incapable of sin; its impossible for Him to think, let alone do anything wrong, anything period.
Perfect love, selfless in nature, desiring only what is the absolute best for all others with no selfish restrictions or motives, just pure love.
Love, pure love beyond our human capabilities to understand because we aren't able to totally extract our selfish nature's from our loving.
And like UG said, falsehood cannot exist within God.
In the ways that we are tempted... God is not. Nor can He actually be tempted to do any wrong.
God's holiness also incorporates His other personality and character traits. Its an awesome study to do.
An excellent start would be reading A.W. Tozer's small book on the Holiness of God.

If you define the deity to mean the sum total of the universe, and the laws of the universe simply an expression of said deity, then you have metaphorically reconciled science and crationism...but in a way that is not subject to be verified by evidence, nor would it be appropriate to attempt to do so.

As you can see in the above, I define God as a specific being with a personality and character.

UG- I had explained to me by a college professor a fascinating definition of eternity in which all of time since its creation at the big bang exists separately from eternity. Sweet stuff.

[morethanpretty]

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[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Ruminator

HLJ, God's personal character that is defined as His holiness is virtually impossible for humans with limited speech to fully describe. I'll make a separate thread for it as soon as I can.
Meantime, holiness refers at once to His perfect, pure sinlessness.
God is incapable of sin; its impossible for Him to think, let alone do anything wrong, anything period.
Perfect love, selfless in nature, desiring only what is the absolute best for all others with no selfish restrictions or motives, just pure love.
Love, pure love beyond our human capabilities to understand because we aren't able to totally extract our selfish nature's from our loving.
And like UG said, falsehood cannot exist within God.
In the ways that we are tempted... God is not. Nor can He actually be tempted to do any wrong.
God's holiness also incorporates His other personality and character traits. Its an awesome study to do.
An excellent start would be reading A.W. Tozer's small book on the Holiness of God.


As you can see in the above, I define God as a specific being with a personality and character.

If it's beyond our human capabilities to understand, don't you think you're being presumptuous, assigning these definitions? Why do you think you have the right to do this? Because some guys wrote somewhere that it's okay?

[Ruminator]

bluecuracao, you misread my post. I apologize for not being more clear.

I didn't say

it's beyond our human capabilities to understand

; rather I said that its

virtually impossible for humans with limited speech to fully describe

... the key word in that sentence is fully. There is a world of difference in meaning.
My stated meaning provides for a fantastic opportunity to discover and experience God, to discover personally more about Him than we can adequately describe to someone else in our limited ability with words.
That isn't to say that we can't describe a great deal of what we know with language, just pointing out its limitations when trying to describe the eternal, limitlessness of God, and in this case His Holiness.