Andrew Wakefield found to have faked research on vaccines/autism. Murder? - Page 2

TGRR · 02-18-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

2 deaths from measels?

how many less from SIDS?

Do you have a peer-reviewed study showing a link between MMR vaccinations and SIDS?

lumberjim · 02-18-2009, 09:41 PM

nope.

Pie · 02-18-2009, 09:53 PM

FUD. That's all he has.

TGRR · 02-18-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

nope.

I'm sure there's a point in there somewhere. I just appear to be too dense to appreciate it.

Enlighten me?

classicman · 02-19-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

nope.

tw · 02-19-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Beestie

I'm going to start calling you "the six degrees of WMDs."

Whenever a discussion is about people who don't think logically - who want to be scammed - then no better example is 'Saddam had WMDs'. The ideal example of people who just *know* despite facts.

An MMR myth could not happen to anyone who learned from the 'Saddam had WMD' lie. A lie always cited when people believe their emotions rather than reality. No better example of how many will deny facts to entertain emotional bias.

Cicero · 02-19-2009, 02:12 PM

I will take full responsibility for any of the myths I choose to beleve in.

classicman · 02-19-2009, 02:16 PM

bites tongue - move along

Sundae · 02-19-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero

I will take full responsibility for any of the myths I choose to beleve in.

Like the American Government blew up the Twin Towers?

Aliantha · 02-19-2009, 04:33 PM

There was an article on the news last night about a town just north of Brisbane where I live which has a less than 66% immunisation rate and is soon to be considered dangerous for tourists (which is where the town makes its money from) because there's likely to be outbreaks of measles and whooping cough, both of which are making a comeback thanks to generally lower levels of immunisation in the community.

This is a dangerous game people are playing with their childrens lives.

ETA: Damn liberal pinko hippies!

Flint · 02-19-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

I have friends who have bought into this wholesale.

Yeah, you're right in the middle of cuckoo-land. Your region is sending out emissaries to bamboozle the masses with this hogwash.

smoothmoniker · 02-19-2009, 05:13 PM

If you would quit watching their movies and TV shows and buying their albums, these wackjobs wouldn't have quite such a far reach.

Do it, do it for the children. Quit sending your entertainment dollars to LA. Send them directly to me instead, and I promise to entertain you.

Aliantha · 02-19-2009, 05:16 PM

I wonder if the people who choose not to immunise their children realise how much infant mortality has decreased since immunisation became mainstream.

Sorry, but this issue really bothers me because if diseases like measles and whooping cough, not to mention polio and hepatitis become 'ordinary' illnesses again, where does that leave the babies who are only just begining their immunisation schedule? The very young and the very old are always most susceptible to these diseases and if they're more prevalent in society, then who is going to start popping off because of them?

If you choose not to immunise your child, you're not only being irresponsible as a parent, you're being socially irresponsible also.

Flame away.

Clodfobble · 02-19-2009, 05:28 PM

A friend of mine's baby got whooping cough a week before the scheduled immunization was to occur. She spent over a week in the hospital on a feeding tube. It is serious shit.

TheMercenary · 02-19-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I wonder if the people who choose not to immunise their children realise how much infant mortality has decreased since immunisation became mainstream.

Sorry, but this issue really bothers me because if diseases like measles and whooping cough, not to mention polio and hepatitis become 'ordinary' illnesses again, where does that leave the babies who are only just begining their immunisation schedule? The very young and the very old are always most susceptible to these diseases and if they're more prevalent in society, then who is going to start popping off because of them?

If you choose not to immunise your child, you're not only being irresponsible as a parent, you're being socially irresponsible also.

Flame away.

What she said. If it is such a bad thing I think we need to stop trying to immunize all those Africans./sarc

02-18-2009, 09:41 PM	#17
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	nope. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-18-2009, 09:53 PM	#18
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	FUD. That's all he has. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

02-19-2009, 02:12 PM	#22
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I will take full responsibility for any of the myths I choose to beleve in. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

02-19-2009, 02:16 PM	#23
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	bites tongue - move along __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-19-2009, 04:33 PM	#25
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	There was an article on the news last night about a town just north of Brisbane where I live which has a less than 66% immunisation rate and is soon to be considered dangerous for tourists (which is where the town makes its money from) because there's likely to be outbreaks of measles and whooping cough, both of which are making a comeback thanks to generally lower levels of immunisation in the community. This is a dangerous game people are playing with their childrens lives. ETA: Damn liberal pinko hippies! __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-19-2009, 05:13 PM	#27
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	If you would quit watching their movies and TV shows and buying their albums, these wackjobs wouldn't have quite such a far reach. Do it, do it for the children. Quit sending your entertainment dollars to LA. Send them directly to me instead, and I promise to entertain you. __________________ to live and die in LA

02-19-2009, 05:16 PM	#28
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I wonder if the people who choose not to immunise their children realise how much infant mortality has decreased since immunisation became mainstream. Sorry, but this issue really bothers me because if diseases like measles and whooping cough, not to mention polio and hepatitis become 'ordinary' illnesses again, where does that leave the babies who are only just begining their immunisation schedule? The very young and the very old are always most susceptible to these diseases and if they're more prevalent in society, then who is going to start popping off because of them? If you choose not to immunise your child, you're not only being irresponsible as a parent, you're being socially irresponsible also. Flame away. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-19-2009, 05:28 PM	#29
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	A friend of mine's baby got whooping cough a week before the scheduled immunization was to occur. She spent over a week in the hospital on a feeding tube. It is serious shit. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

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