CyberBully - Page 2

glatt · 03-27-2009, 09:39 AM

Columbine happened because of bullies. They picked on two kids, those two kids got guns and fought back. Fought back against the bullies and the crowd associated with them. I strongly support recent efforts to reduce bullying in schools.

I was rarely bullied in school. It happened only a couple of times, but was very traumatic. I can't imagine what it was like for kids who were routinely bullied.

TheMercenary · 03-27-2009, 09:43 AM

In addition to glatts note, I would say that we have all read about the case of an adult female who bullied a teen female neighbor who eventually commited suicide. You never can know who is on the other end of any cyber exchange. Eva.

dar512 · 03-27-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

some folks are out there LOOKING to be victims.

just sayin'

I'm always shocked when I see stuff like this from you, Jim. I think of you as a nice guy - wacky but fun. Then stuff like this comes along and completely floors me. It shows such a lack of empathy/compassion that the mind boggles.

Pie · 03-27-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512

I'm always shocked when I see stuff like this from you, Jim. I think of you as a nice guy - wacky but fun. Then stuff like this comes along and completely floors me. It shows such a lack of empathy/compassion that the mind boggles.

He's being a dick on purpose. I ignore him.

Classic, I flew off the handle. I retract the harshness, but reiterate my judgment on your lack of empathy.

TheMercenary · 03-27-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512

I'm always shocked when I see stuff like this from you, Jim. I think of you as a nice guy - wacky but fun. Then stuff like this comes along and completely floors me. It shows such a lack of empathy/compassion that the mind boggles.

Hey stop that. He gets to set the bar here.

lumberjim · 03-27-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512

I'm always shocked when I see stuff like this from you, Jim. I think of you as a nice guy - wacky but fun. Then stuff like this comes along and completely floors me. It shows such a lack of empathy/compassion that the mind boggles.

well....dar.....that's where you're coloring in your own opinions of what kind of person I am. and you too, Pie...

that statement is, in my opinion, accurate. there ARE people out there that take satisfaction from being victimized. they need/want the compassion that they get from it.....it's passive aggression. munchausen(sp?) whatever...

I have no idea if the example used in this post is that aspect, or a legit victim. irrelevant to my point.

...the only reason i pointed it out at all was because there is a fucking website for someone to sell advertising on (mention of which made it into the article/advert, oddly enough).....is, most likely, the real reason for it's existence. opportunistic profiteering on the victimization of those 'poor poor teens' who can't step away from the computer, ignore text messages etc etc...

the website encourages a victim mentality. they benefit from it.

now call me a shit some more

i think you're full of yourself and overestimate the value of your so called honor. and i am seldom floored by it. or boggled.

i still love you though, cock.

Pie · 03-27-2009, 10:52 AM

Lj, you were trolling. Admit it. Then you can 'play the victim' after the inevitable pile-on.
:p

Trilby · 03-27-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

In addition to glatts note, I would say that we have all read about the case of an adult female who bullied a teen female neighbor who eventually commited suicide. You never can know who is on the other end of any cyber exchange. Eva.

I find this highly ironic.

Flint · 03-27-2009, 11:06 AM

Oh yeah? Well that badass just gave half his paycheck to kids. Kids with diseases.

Shawnee123 · 03-27-2009, 11:08 AM

I don't think lj, classic, or myself are heartless because of our comments. It's a different perspective, to be sure.

My answer was not thought out, and no I don't understand being bullied. Why was I never bullied? I suppose there are a lot of reasons: lack of qualified bulliers perhaps, but I also feel that I never put myself out there for that. I've said before I'm scarily fearless ('cept for spiders) and perhaps I've always carried myself in a way that precluded me seeming victimizable. It's also not that there weren't people in my childhood, or young adulthood, who didn't try to go there. They quickly gave up that effort when they saw I wasn't playing that game.

I do feel compassion for people, more deeply than it must seem. It is only the people I care about I seem to let treat me badly: strangers can take a flying leap because I won't be backed into a corner without a really big fight. I'm not playing toughwoman: this is just the way I am, the way I've always been.

I am sorry if I seemed to make light of your individual situations. My response was to the article, which elicited from me my first thought: stand up for yourself because no one else is going to do that for you.

Pie · 03-27-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

my first thought: stand up for yourself because no one else is going to do that for you.

I understand your point of view; and it's true, in limited situations. But it becomes neigh-unto-impossible when you have to stand up to 1000+ people for years.
Most people survive. It does leave long-term scars; bullying is one of the three reasons I will never have children. My kids are bound to be as ugly as me; there would be no hope for them.

Shawnee123 · 03-27-2009, 11:17 AM

Well Pie, I think you're adorable...you know that.

No, I can't imagine what you must have gone through, and again I'm sorry if I seemed heartless.

lumberjim · 03-27-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pie

Lj, you were trolling. Admit it. Then you can 'play the victim' after the inevitable pile-on.
:p

you've got me and The Mercenary confused, Pie.

TheMercenary · 03-27-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

you've got me and The Mercenary confused, Pie.

I don't think so.

lumberjim · 03-27-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pie

as ugly as me; there would be no hope for them.

cutest ugly chick I know....

03-27-2009, 09:43 AM	#17
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	In addition to glatts note, I would say that we have all read about the case of an adult female who bullied a teen female neighbor who eventually commited suicide. You never can know who is on the other end of any cyber exchange. Eva. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012! Last edited by TheMercenary; 03-27-2009 at 10:01 AM.

03-27-2009, 10:52 AM	#22
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Lj, you were trolling. Admit it. Then you can 'play the victim' after the inevitable pile-on. :p __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

03-27-2009, 11:06 AM	#24
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	lumberjerk Oh yeah? Well that badass just gave half his paycheck to kids. Kids with diseases. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-27-2009, 11:08 AM	#25
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I don't think lj, classic, or myself are heartless because of our comments. It's a different perspective, to be sure. My answer was not thought out, and no I don't understand being bullied. Why was I never bullied? I suppose there are a lot of reasons: lack of qualified bulliers perhaps, but I also feel that I never put myself out there for that. I've said before I'm scarily fearless ('cept for spiders) and perhaps I've always carried myself in a way that precluded me seeming victimizable. It's also not that there weren't people in my childhood, or young adulthood, who didn't try to go there. They quickly gave up that effort when they saw I wasn't playing that game. I do feel compassion for people, more deeply than it must seem. It is only the people I care about I seem to let treat me badly: strangers can take a flying leap because I won't be backed into a corner without a really big fight. I'm not playing toughwoman: this is just the way I am, the way I've always been. I am sorry if I seemed to make light of your individual situations. My response was to the article, which elicited from me my first thought: stand up for yourself because no one else is going to do that for you. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-27-2009, 11:17 AM	#27
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Well Pie, I think you're adorable...you know that. No, I can't imagine what you must have gone through, and again I'm sorry if I seemed heartless. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-27-2009, 09:39 AM	#16
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Columbine happened because of bullies. They picked on two kids, those two kids got guns and fought back. Fought back against the bullies and the crowd associated with them. I strongly support recent efforts to reduce bullying in schools. I was rarely bullied in school. It happened only a couple of times, but was very traumatic. I can't imagine what it was like for kids who were routinely bullied.

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