Strange Intersection - Page 2

j03L10T · 11-11-2002, 10:13 AM

So the guy is inside the trunk looking down the barrel of his rifle and preparing the shot..the barrel protrudes through the hole in the trunk a good two, two and a half feet maybe from the sniper's point of vision and has no obvious trouble focusing at 150 yards from the trunk of a car? I think the dudes were set up and just needed to have a new lock installed into their trunk. It has been reported that the two men confessed to the crimes, but we really know nothing of their actual circumstances other than what the media tells us and the rest of the world believes it too. That is part of the reason I am not a very big fan of the press and most forms of media, including internet. Do we really know the facts in this and countless others that were never questioned and quite possibly should have been by a "third" party? Just wondering what some of you might think of my off the wall theory that innocent people are going to jail every day, and that even very FEW of the suicides we read about behind bars if any, are actually legit (unassisted and at will).

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Hubris Boy · 11-12-2002, 01:36 AM

Yes! Yes! It's all clear to me now! How could I have been so blind?

These two innocent men had nothing to do with these shootings. Clearly, this was the work of... (everybody say it with me now... )

Right-wing Militant Extremists

working under the direct orders of John Ashcroft himself. This "string of shootings" was nothing more than a transparent attempt on the part of the right-wing militant extremist Bush administration to influence the outcome of the recent election.

Also noted is the suspicious death of Sen. Wellstone. Again, the right-wing militant extremists are suspected.

jaguar · 11-12-2002, 02:07 AM

Nice call

but I thought it was the antigun lobby? You know? The same ones that were behind teh port Aurthur shootings here, out to stop god fearing citizens from exersizing their god given right to own assult weaponary. Those evil dems are at it again.

j03L10T · 11-12-2002, 06:32 AM

The media is full of shit and the world in general will believe anything they see and hear. Take MTV for example, all of the models and lip syncers who I know for a fact aren't getting compensated very much for their share of the work either. They are merely being strung along by the mafia to believe they will be millionares one day while the profits continue to turn for pirates of the media giants. Fortunately in my case, I actually have evidence of the piracy and it is a case that will never surface in court.

I am not going to pray for the two suspects, because their goose is cooked no matter what. I suppose it is possible that they stepped upon the wrong toes to be where they are now, I will never believe they are the actual murderers.

11-12-2002, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by j03L10T
I will never believe they are the actual murderers.

How so? What's that all about? Why won't you? What evidence do you have to the contrary? Isn't it a bit narrow-minded to form an opinion this early?

MaggieL · 11-12-2002, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by jaguar
Nice call but I thought it was the antigun lobby?

Well, if so, the plan really backfired...rabidly anti-gun Glendenning was unseated by pro-RKBA Bob Erlich in Maryland.

Mohammed's ex-wife is convinced that these two were popping people all around where she lives so that when he finally shot *her*, it would be "just another sniper shooting". If he'd gone directly to shooting her the cops would *know* who it was.

11-12-2002, 10:13 AM

Actually, Glendenning wasn't unseated really. Term limits mandated that he stepped down after two 4-year terms (which, disappointingly enough, he won comfortably each time). If anything, it would be more accurate to say that Erlich upset Kennedy-Townsend (which, in my book, is a Good Thing™).

j03L10T · 11-12-2002, 11:08 AM

I had any evidence that these two guys weren't the murderers. I said I will never believe they had anything to do with it, nor do I believe Oswald had anything to do with the Kennedy assasination. I only said that I actually have evidence to support my own case in court against recording giants who have allowed others to take credit for my own hard work. Evidence I had completely forgotten about over the years. Thanks to the help of a few fans who were on the inside of the recordings at the time, I am laughing instead of fuming. I don't care to mention any of this ever again so please don't ask for specific information in regards to my life and my creations. I will share little bits of information my own way as I see fit. In closing, I never will believe that those two guys were the murderers- and have my reasons for having such an opinion. Ever judge a cd by the cover?

11-12-2002, 11:13 AM

Not at all. I was simply asking you to explain why you would have such a strong opinion right off the bat.

I personally go into things like this with a neutral outlook; that is, they may or may not be guilty. Then we take a look at the evidence and draw our conclusions from that.

I make a very conscious effort to not assume someone guilty until proven so. I also make a conscious effort not to dismiss the possibility. One of the best pieces of advice I have ever gotten is "keep an open mind", and I try my hardest to do just that.

j03L10T · 11-12-2002, 11:25 AM

You explain yourself very well, it's my prediction they have already been convicted within the public's own eyes anyway. I am looking the matter over very objectively with no solid facts whatsoever to base any further opinion of this matter upon. I feel this is yet another injustice to us all, by our own government for whatever reason. That is just me. You are absolutely right to say that I could be wrong about the conviction and I am with you on that 100%- I certainly do hope so: )

juju · 11-12-2002, 11:31 AM

How old are you, really?

j03L10T · 11-12-2002, 11:50 AM

Joe Elliot is actually 35 years of age and lives in good ol' L.A., just around the corner from a real hotty totty he rarely put out of his mind! That is it for me here, I think from now on I am sticking to entertainment. There is just something very creepy and negative that changes my mood for the worst when it comes to politics and conspiracies that could have easily been avoided. I'd rather feel like dancing and entertaining and having a fun time with everyone else. I'm saying goodbye to poitical threads for now, and hopefully getting back into something everyone can actually enjoy!

juju · 11-12-2002, 02:16 PM

Interesting. I don't think i've ever seen a 35 year old man use leet speak. Are you sure you're not 13?

j03L10T · 11-12-2002, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juju
Interesting. I don't think i've ever seen a 35 year old man use leet speak. Are you sure you're not 13?

I never had to raise my arm to feel just safe so I am pretty sure, umm whew! Today is very most definately NOT my lucky day for remembering to apply deodorant. But hey, great day for getting snockered legaly, huh? CHEERS 2 U JUJU!! And then sum-; )

juju · 11-12-2002, 03:49 PM

Hmm... make that 7.

11-11-2002, 10:13 AM	#16
j03L10T going nowhere slow Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L.A. Posts: 252	okay- So the guy is inside the trunk looking down the barrel of his rifle and preparing the shot..the barrel protrudes through the hole in the trunk a good two, two and a half feet maybe from the sniper's point of vision and has no obvious trouble focusing at 150 yards from the trunk of a car? I think the dudes were set up and just needed to have a new lock installed into their trunk. It has been reported that the two men confessed to the crimes, but we really know nothing of their actual circumstances other than what the media tells us and the rest of the world believes it too. That is part of the reason I am not a very big fan of the press and most forms of media, including internet. Do we really know the facts in this and countless others that were never questioned and quite possibly should have been by a "third" party? Just wondering what some of you might think of my off the wall theory that innocent people are going to jail every day, and that even very FEW of the suicides we read about behind bars if any, are actually legit (unassisted and at will). This message has been brought to you by an un-named U.S. Official, well almost- Joe Q. Elliot

11-12-2002, 01:36 AM	#17
Hubris Boy Keymaster of Gozer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Patapsco Drainage Basin Posts: 471	Yes! Yes! It's all clear to me now! How could I have been so blind? These two innocent men had nothing to do with these shootings. Clearly, this was the work of... (everybody say it with me now... ) Right-wing Militant Extremists working under the direct orders of John Ashcroft himself. This "string of shootings" was nothing more than a transparent attempt on the part of the right-wing militant extremist Bush administration to influence the outcome of the recent election. Also noted is the suspicious death of Sen. Wellstone. Again, the right-wing militant extremists are suspected. __________________ "Never understimate the power of stupid people in large groups."

11-12-2002, 02:07 AM	#18
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Nice call but I thought it was the antigun lobby? You know? The same ones that were behind teh port Aurthur shootings here, out to stop god fearing citizens from exersizing their god given right to own assult weaponary. Those evil dems are at it again. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

11-12-2002, 06:32 AM	#19
j03L10T going nowhere slow Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L.A. Posts: 252	My point is- The media is full of shit and the world in general will believe anything they see and hear. Take MTV for example, all of the models and lip syncers who I know for a fact aren't getting compensated very much for their share of the work either. They are merely being strung along by the mafia to believe they will be millionares one day while the profits continue to turn for pirates of the media giants. Fortunately in my case, I actually have evidence of the piracy and it is a case that will never surface in court. I am not going to pray for the two suspects, because their goose is cooked no matter what. I suppose it is possible that they stepped upon the wrong toes to be where they are now, I will never believe they are the actual murderers.

11-12-2002, 11:08 AM	#23
j03L10T going nowhere slow Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L.A. Posts: 252	I didn't say- I had any evidence that these two guys weren't the murderers. I said I will never believe they had anything to do with it, nor do I believe Oswald had anything to do with the Kennedy assasination. I only said that I actually have evidence to support my own case in court against recording giants who have allowed others to take credit for my own hard work. Evidence I had completely forgotten about over the years. Thanks to the help of a few fans who were on the inside of the recordings at the time, I am laughing instead of fuming. I don't care to mention any of this ever again so please don't ask for specific information in regards to my life and my creations. I will share little bits of information my own way as I see fit. In closing, I never will believe that those two guys were the murderers- and have my reasons for having such an opinion. Ever judge a cd by the cover?

11-12-2002, 10:13 AM	#22
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Actually, Glendenning wasn't unseated really. Term limits mandated that he stepped down after two 4-year terms (which, disappointingly enough, he won comfortably each time). If anything, it would be more accurate to say that Erlich upset Kennedy-Townsend (which, in my book, is a Good Thing™).

11-12-2002, 11:13 AM	#24
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Not at all. I was simply asking you to explain why you would have such a strong opinion right off the bat. I personally go into things like this with a neutral outlook; that is, they may or may not be guilty. Then we take a look at the evidence and draw our conclusions from that. I make a very conscious effort to not assume someone guilty until proven so. I also make a conscious effort not to dismiss the possibility. One of the best pieces of advice I have ever gotten is "keep an open mind", and I try my hardest to do just that.

11-12-2002, 11:25 AM	#25
j03L10T going nowhere slow Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L.A. Posts: 252	They have their Patsys- You explain yourself very well, it's my prediction they have already been convicted within the public's own eyes anyway. I am looking the matter over very objectively with no solid facts whatsoever to base any further opinion of this matter upon. I feel this is yet another injustice to us all, by our own government for whatever reason. That is just me. You are absolutely right to say that I could be wrong about the conviction and I am with you on that 100%- I certainly do hope so: )

11-12-2002, 11:31 AM	#26
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	How old are you, really?

11-12-2002, 11:50 AM	#27
j03L10T going nowhere slow Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L.A. Posts: 252	If you are talking to me- Joe Elliot is actually 35 years of age and lives in good ol' L.A., just around the corner from a real hotty totty he rarely put out of his mind! That is it for me here, I think from now on I am sticking to entertainment. There is just something very creepy and negative that changes my mood for the worst when it comes to politics and conspiracies that could have easily been avoided. I'd rather feel like dancing and entertaining and having a fun time with everyone else. I'm saying goodbye to poitical threads for now, and hopefully getting back into something everyone can actually enjoy!

11-12-2002, 02:16 PM	#28
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Interesting. I don't think i've ever seen a 35 year old man use leet speak. Are you sure you're not 13? Last edited by juju; 11-12-2002 at 02:18 PM.

11-12-2002, 03:49 PM	#30
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Hmm... make that 7.

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