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Old 10-14-2003, 07:29 PM   #1
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Michael Moore seems to point out that the US media tries to generate the biggest frenzy it can; be afraid and consume as much as possible. It doesn't sound like a logical thing, but I stopped watching the newsdroids several years ago, and I stopped conceal-carrying my CZ. I just didn't see any need to. I love my guns, and want to get a few more choice weapons, and I'd be pissed if any more knee-jerk legislation gets passed because two wackos walked into a school.

This is about the only thing that Michael Moore and I agree on. Right Michael? *Mmmph!*
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:30 PM   #2
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Not at all.
Anti-stupidity sentiment is rampant , however. England is not the first to make this mistake. History repeats itself for those that don't learn from it.

edit - I was answering Ljim, but Ury snuck in there.
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:30 PM   #3
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also, the phrasing of anti- limey was a little tiny joke

see, "limey" is generally considered to be an anti english term, and my questioning bruce's "anti-limey" sentiment was a teenie bit amusing....to me, anyway
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:31 PM   #4
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Re: Gun does not equal cowboy

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Having read this post and tried to understand the humour ! It begs the question "Whats the thing you guys across the pond have about guns".
If you ever see a watermelon explode due to .44 magnum hollow points you'd understand.

I grew up around guns all my life. My current collection (most given to me when my father passed) is approximatly 75 guns. Most are collector types and several have never been shot. It was just a way of life. Guns allow me to get meat. Growing up in rural oklahoma with a stay at home mother, meat was not something sold at the local Krogers or SafeWay. Hunting was no hobby but a way of life. Sure we could have made it without it, but a couple of extra deer sure did help our butcher cows last longer. Fresh tree-rat(squirrel) tastes almost as good as they look. There's something very empowering knowing that if I were affected by a blackout similar to the one the northeast faced earlier this year, I wouldn't have to go without fresh meat just because the scanners at Wal-Mart were down. (That and it's also nice to know said .44 will make one helluva hole in a strung out cranksta gangsta if he chooses to take what is not his(which is becoming more of a problem here in the midwest than deer eating up gardens in suberbia,USA))
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:38 PM   #5
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Re: Re: Gun does not equal cowboy

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If you ever see a watermelon explode due to .44 magnum hollow points you'd understand.

-george's impression of dirty Harry and Gallagher's love child
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:47 PM   #6
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also, the phrasing of anti- limey was a little tiny joke

see, "limey" is generally considered to be an anti english term, and my questioning bruce's "anti-limey" sentiment was a teenie bit amusing....to me, anyway

Being a limey, I can't say that limey is considered to be derogatory at all, at least *I've* never heard it used as such.

And while I don't dislike you, I haven't seen anything you've posted yet that has particularly endeared me to you, either.

Keep trying, tho!

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Old 10-14-2003, 08:00 PM   #7
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And while I don't dislike you, I haven't seen anything you've posted yet that has particularly endeared me to you, either.

Keep trying, tho!

ok, here goes:

I love the name onyxcougar, and you are very informed and witty. Plus, I am deeply attracted to english women...It's the accent...it makes me feel so unworthy and naughty with my crude american mannerisms. I bet you are as beautiful as your prose. And kind. I also love the way you have perfect punctuation and grammar. You also seem to be able to take a joke very well. I have a very good english friend, and he has a very distinct sense of humour(note the english spelling). I'll admit that I missed it, and didn't know you were english, but then, the accent doesn't translate very obviously into text. What I'm trying to say, cougar, is that i really really really want to impress you and to make you think I'm smarter than I actually am. You see, I have a very fragile ego, and need constant reassurance from people I look up to. I see you as one of the quicker people in the cellar, and if nothingelse, I would just like to let everyone know that your grace and intelligence is unmatched among the mere mortals that surround you.

I actually mean some of that cougar, and before you say it, just let me say that I know I'm a cock!
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Old 10-14-2003, 08:04 PM   #8
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ok, here goes:

I love the name onyxcougar, and you are very informed and witty. Plus, I am deeply attracted to english women...It's the accent...it makes me feel so unworthy and naughty with my crude american mannerisms. I bet you are as beautiful as your prose. And kind. I also love the way you have perfect punctuation and grammar. You also seem to be able to take a joke very well. I have a very good english friend, and he has a very distinct sense of humour(note the english spelling). I'll admit that I missed it, and didn't know you were english, but then, the accent doesn't translate very obviously into text. What I'm trying to say, cougar, is that i really really really want to impress you and to make you think I'm smarter than I actually am. You see, I have a very fragile ego, and need constant reassurance from people I look up to. I see you as one of the quicker people in the cellar, and if nothingelse, I would just like to let everyone know that your grace and intelligence is unmatched among the mere mortals that surround you.

I actually mean some of that cougar, and before you say it, just let me say that I know I'm a cock!

Glad you know you're a crock. Now everyone else does!
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I think I'm going to print and frame that one. No one's lied to me like that since Bruce!
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Old 10-14-2003, 08:14 PM   #9
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~~~~chills~~~~~


I like you more every minute, cougar.


and, by the way, i said C O C K , not crock....I'm very legitimate and accurate in what i say, and will not tolerate being called a crock....I mean, insults are one thing, but when you question my integrity, that's when I draw the line....Harumph!
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Old 10-14-2003, 08:27 PM   #10
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Uh, Jim. She just moved from Vegas to North Carolina and I'm pretty sure she's a citizen.
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:17 PM   #11
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oh ho... Reeeee heeeeee heellleeeeee? come clean, onyx....what side of the road do you drive on? s or z? come on.... aluminum or al-you-minnium? .....chips or fries? go to the john or the lu? which is it?
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:47 AM   #12
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And don't forget to smear the bearfat on the back end of the cylinder to make sure it doesn't flash over to the next chamber. Or is it a single shot?
Six shot, Ruger Old Army.

Ran short on bearfat, so I've been using WonderWads. You don't get yer fingers gooey that way.

Tried the Pyrodex pellets, but actually like the poured powder better.
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:54 AM   #13
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Re: Gun does not equal cowboy

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Having read this post and tried to understand the humour ! It begs the question "Whats the thing you guys across the pond have about guns".
Our question is generally "what's the thing you guys across the pond have against guns"

Britain and Australia are generally held up as example of what happens when countries enact restrictive gun control measures, confiscating personal property and leaving an unarmed populace helpless against the predations of criminals.

Crime IS on the rise in both nations. Rapid rise.

Do you know what happens in the US if a state that has not previously had a concealed carry law enacts one? Crime goes DOWN. Once law-abiding and responsible people are possibly carrying guns, criminals have a harder time of things. Before Florida enacted shall issue concealed carry (that means that just so long as you aren't disqualified for having a gun permit you shall be issued one if you apply) the crime rates (possibly the ones involving handguns) was 36% above the national average. After? 4% BELOW the national average.

This has been borne out in other states as well.

Where are the highest rates of crime and gun violence? The places that don't allow their citzens to carry guns or to have weapons in their homes ... Washington, DC, New York City, Chicago, Illinois.
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:36 AM   #14
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... there was a period during the *ahem* Clinton years while S&W was owned by a British company and the company entered into what was perceived by many as a "deal with the devil", going along with some ideas and demands by the gun control crowd in an attempt to position themselves as continuing to have a market share as more restrictive bans and manufacturing controls got put into place.
Now that the comapny is owned by Americans ....again, we see the company doing better. I personally like S&Ws although the only model I own is a 640 (pocketgun, 357, no external hammer, less than 1 inch barrel, magnaported).

The problem they are now facing is the bad service and quality of their handguns.

Once they get their act together I would like to purchase one of their "mountain gun" revolvers, as seen in the movie Broken Arrow. The lady ranger carried it. It's a 44 mag in a manageable frame.
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:40 AM   #15
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They have that new .50 cal hand<strike>gun</strike>cannon too ...

(edited to try to get the stupid strikeout tags to work)
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