DISH network drops all Viacom channels

[zippyt]

UT said How hard is it to mount a dish mount in the ground? What if the ground is really muddy, like a bog?

Truthfully i don't know , I would think you could build up the area with dirt and dig a big ass hole to fill with cement to secure your sat mount pole .
i have put a dish on the roof , and on the pole of an existing BIG dish . In the next few years i am going to have to take down the big dish and extend the pole UP because of trees in the way . Any body perfected a laser that will top out a tree from a distance that I can borrow ???? Phasers on KILL and all that !!!

[JeepNGeorge]

Originally posted by mrnoodle

I wonder how hard it would be to get the hardware for satellite internet access, then do a zippyt.....

Hmm.

Professional installs only on the satellite internet. Bastards!!! They want $200 to install it. I've looked into it since I live in the country and dsl, cable, wireless net options are not available to me. Direcway will also limit your downloads per day to something like 160 megs a day at highspeed. It will drop down to 56k after that for the something like 8 hours.

I don't know how reliable it is though, I've read a mixed bag of reviews on the stability of the system.

[zippyt]

we can get fixed wireless for about $65 a month that is as fast or faster than dsl . i just can't justify spending that much .

[JeepNGeorge]

Originally posted by Brigliadore
Reading another article on the matter, it said viacom was asking for a $0.03 increase per subscriber from what they currently are getting from dish. Yes thats right this is all over 3 friggin cents. I don't actively watch the stations they have now black listed but I am pissed at the childish shit being pulled by both sides. I still haven't decided what I want to do, but if I do end up calling Dish, they will be speaking with angry bitch Brittany and not nice on the phone Brittany. Lets hope they keep me on hold for 30 min. so I have time to get real mad.

Viacom says .03 to .06 cents increase, Dish says 40%. Who you gonna believe. Dish says put it in writing the .06 and the contract is signed.

Another point is the Viacom owned CBS stations (luckily Oklahoma's is independently owned ) are being packaged into the deal. I can see Dish networks point. Why should the rest of the subscribers pay for a channel they can't legally recieve.

They better figure something out before March Madness or the phone lines are going to melt for both companies.

[JeepNGeorge]

Originally posted by zippyt
we can get fixed wireless for about $65 a month that is as fast or faster than dsl . i just can't justify spending that much .

It's $33 for wireless here, if only they'd have a transmitter close enough to me I'd get it. We do have a county water tower behind our house and I'm trying to get them to install a repeater there, but so far no go.

What sucks is that our phone lines are so bad where I live, I'm lucky to connect at 28.8. I'd gladly pay the $65.

[SteveDallas]

Originally posted by zippyt


Truthfully i don't know , I would think you could build up the area with dirt and dig a big ass hole to fill with cement to secure your sat mount pole .

My "big ass hole" (and you'd better be careful to have proper spacing in that phrase) which has the concrete base for the dish is somewhere between a foot and 18" wide, and I'm not sure exactly how deep, but it's not very. (I had a mount on the corner of the house when I was with Dish; when I switched to DirecTV I had to move down to the ground because a neighbor's tree interfered with line-of-sight to the DirecTV satellite.)

In the current dispute my sympathies lie at least theoretically with Dish Network. Dish/DirecTV/Cable companies are not blameless in these disputes... but we can't expect them to just cough up whatever the channels ask for. (As I understand it, the dispute it not solely about price, but also about Viacom wanted to tie carriage of their local channels to some extra "cable" channels that Dish isn't interested in carrying.)

LJ, if you switch to DirecTV, get one of the Tivo-ized receivers. You won't regret it. (Well, until your wife and kids have filled the damn thing up leaving you with 45 minutes to record whatever you want to watch. But I'm sure you can deal with that.)

[mrnoodle]

Sorry for getting so off-topic, but does anyone know of an affordable non-line-of-sight wireless solution (washes mouth out for using the term 'solution') for home users? I just got the sad news today, that regular wireless won't work where I am. I know there was something about it here at the cellar, but can't recall the thread.

[zippyt]

if you switch to DirecTV, get one of the Tivo-ized receivers. You won't regret it. (Well, until your wife and kids have filled the damn thing up leaving you with 45 minutes to record whatever you want to watch. But I'm sure you can deal with that.)

What he is talking about is a direct tv recever box with a hard drive built in , ours can hold 30 hours of video , you can ( and we WILL eventualy) add a second bigger hard drive that will give you an additional 120 hrs ????

I have a few flicks that just LIVE on my tivo drive . Nice to just be able to pull them up at any time

[SteveDallas]

Yeah, ours came with the 40GB drive and we popped in an extra 80GB. (And I then proceeded to re-assemble the box without reconnecting the internal fan lead, and then we went out somewhere about an hour later & left the kids home with a sitter, and the sitter freaked out when the TV stopped working and put up a message that said the temperature was too high!!) I can't speak for more recent models (ours is 2 years old), but there was actually space for 2 hard drives inside, so it was easy to add one instead replacing the one that came with it.

[OnyxCougar]

I wasn't with Cox when the Fox thing went down, but it nearly went down again, 2 months ago, with Fox and ESPN.

Fox came to an agreement fairly quickly, but ESPN got ugly, and it came within 3 months of pulling ESPN from the lineup. Cox had the numbers, and publicly displayed them (www.makethemplayfair.com), and ESPN responded by saying Cox wanted to pull ESPN off the line up.

I can say, as a customer, that I would rather not pay $2.25 for 3 sports channels on the Expanded lineup if I don't have to. I don't watch them, why do I have to pay for them? 2 ESPN channels accounts for more of the expanded lineup cost than all the viacom channels and 3 other channels COMBINED.

So Cox said, look. either reduce your price per channel INCREASES to a reasonable percentage, or let us MOVE the ESPN channels to a separate tier, and charge whatever the hell you want.

Well, of course, they don't want us to TIER services, because less than 12% of customers would pick them up. That means even LESS money than they make now! Oh no, we want you to keep them on the expanded tier AND charge you 500% increases over 10 years.

Yeah.

And people bitch when their cable bill goes up or when we drop channels. Can't have it both ways. We (the cable company) have to pay the people that OWN the stations to rebroadcast them. They charge us certain rates. If their rate increases, then we are going to pass that increase to the customer. So why be mad at Cox? Be mad at the companies that OWN the channels for raising their rates to us! You wanna know why there are more advertisements on TV? Why cable is so expensive? Ask the actors who work on Friends how much they make an episode, and then figure out where that money comes from.

$.03 cents my ass.

[Beestie]

So why be mad at Cox? Be mad at the companies that OWN the channels for raising their rates to us! You wanna know why there are more advertisements on TV? Why cable is so expensive? Ask the actors who work on Friends how much they make an episode, and then figure out where that money comes from.

Or the sports figure contracts which are eventually subsidized by the TV contracts. Somebody's paying ARod's hundred freaking million dollar salary.

[SteveDallas]

Well, the sports contracts already got too expensive for broadcast TV. (Except for the NFL.) But not that many people cared all that much, because by that point the number of people with cable TV was very high. But at some point the sports contracts will be too expensive for cable too, and then things will be interesting.

[Troubleshooter]

Broad, shallow tub (18" - 24" deep) with handles and two bags of quicrete and it's portable.

[SteveDallas]

The only problem with that is if you don't have reasonably level ground to set it on.

[russotto]

Originally posted by mrnoodle
Sorry for getting so off-topic, but does anyone know of an affordable non-line-of-sight wireless solution

Start another thread and say what you're trying to do and you might get some help.

NLOS and "affordable" is generally "forget about it", but there may be a specific solution.