God and Devil - Page 2

Carbonated_Brains · 01-03-2005, 08:52 PM

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Better resonate one's own personality: good or bad, weak or strong!

What the hell does that mean?

wolf · 01-04-2005, 01:02 AM

I knew sycamore was just joshin'! There's no way he could be that incoherent.

I've seen the man drunk.

He just can't do it.

melidasaur · 01-04-2005, 11:41 AM

The devil is Ned Flanders....

Brown Thrasher · 02-02-2005, 03:20 PM

Let us confess it: evil strides the world." Voltaire

"The world has always been ruled by Lucifer. The world is evil call his name, my love. Call the name of lucifer." Ritual of Evil"

If religion is a delusion due to wishes (Freud) Or bad society(marx) can't the same be said for atheism"?

Some may say the symbolism of christianity is a wonderful thing. However, trying to make it a philosophical system seems to me absurd.

Brown Thrasher · 02-03-2005, 09:52 PM

I know this is off the subject, but I like the word resident denizin. The definition of a denizon and I am paraprasing; is one who inhabits a certain location. Therfore, I am a denizon of the philosophy site, not only for the occasionally intellectual converasations but also because I find more humor and arrogance than on any other site.

richlevy · 02-03-2005, 10:22 PM

You probably mean denizen. I think 'converasations' is actually a pretty creative variation. I think I have done this before when I was choosing between two words and ended up combining them.

OnyxCougar · 03-01-2005, 09:34 AM

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People sometimes say they can't believe in God because the world is so full of suffering. But I have found that people who say that are rarely involved in stopping the world's suffering. And the people who are involved in healing the world's suffering rarely talk like that. When your life revolves around yourself, the world is a cold, sterile, and unfriendly place. When your life revolves around giving to others, you feel how wonderful it is to be alive.

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jaguar · 03-01-2005, 10:27 AM

What a load of crap.

Troubleshooter · 03-01-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jaguar

What a load of crap.

Seconded

Catwoman · 03-01-2005, 11:18 AM

3rd

OnyxCougar · 03-01-2005, 11:23 AM

It's great that you think it's a load of crap.

Mind saying WHY you think it's a load of crap?

Clodfobble · 03-01-2005, 12:01 PM

Or try this: remove the phrase "they can't believe in God because" and re-read it. I don't think it's crap.

mrnoodle · 03-01-2005, 12:09 PM

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When your life revolves around yourself, the world is a cold, sterile, and unfriendly place.

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What a load of crap.

Seconded

3rd

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Happy Monkey · 03-01-2005, 12:15 PM

It's not so much a load of crap as it is meaningless.

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

People sometimes say they can't believe in God because the world is so full of suffering. But I have found that people who say that are rarely involved in stopping the world's suffering.

People in general, atheist or no, are rarely involved in stopping the world's suffering.

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And the people who are involved in healing the world's suffering rarely talk like that.

People in general, world-suffering-healers or no, rarely talk like that. Most people are religious in some form or another.

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When your life revolves around yourself, the world is a cold, sterile, and unfriendly place. When your life revolves around giving to others, you feel how wonderful it is to be alive.

The only way the concluding sentences can be tied to the first two parts is to associate self involvement with atheism, and feeling wonderful to being religious, which look more like the opinion of an unimaginative religious person than a meaningful statement.

OnyxCougar · 03-01-2005, 12:29 PM

Actually, in my discussions with people who don't believe in God, say one of the reasons is that "There is so much death and suffering in the world, how could a loving God allow that?"

Many of those people do nothing to help the people in the world (or even their own community) that are homeless, starving, need clothes or even a kind word. Why?

Because if there is no God, then we're all here by random chance, decended from animals, nothing more than a higher functioning ape. Survival of the fittest, natural selection, only the strong survive. There are haves and have-nots. If you have not, and can't get, then you die. End of problem.

01-04-2005, 01:02 AM	#17
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I knew sycamore was just joshin'! There's no way he could be that incoherent. I've seen the man drunk. He just can't do it. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-04-2005, 11:41 AM	#18
melidasaur Traded your soul for pogs. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 646	The devil is Ned Flanders.... __________________ I love England, what can I say?

02-02-2005, 03:20 PM	#19
Brown Thrasher self=proclaimed ass looking for truth whatever that means Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: A treehouse Posts: 193	Let us confess it: evil strides the world." Voltaire "The world has always been ruled by Lucifer. The world is evil call his name, my love. Call the name of lucifer." Ritual of Evil" If religion is a delusion due to wishes (Freud) Or bad society(marx) can't the same be said for atheism"? Some may say the symbolism of christianity is a wonderful thing. However, trying to make it a philosophical system seems to me absurd. __________________ Let it rain, it eases pain.....

02-03-2005, 09:52 PM	#20
Brown Thrasher self=proclaimed ass looking for truth whatever that means Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: A treehouse Posts: 193	I know this is off the subject, but I like the word resident denizin. The definition of a denizon and I am paraprasing; is one who inhabits a certain location. Therfore, I am a denizon of the philosophy site, not only for the occasionally intellectual converasations but also because I find more humor and arrogance than on any other site. __________________ Let it rain, it eases pain.....

02-03-2005, 10:22 PM	#21
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	You probably mean denizen. I think 'converasations' is actually a pretty creative variation. I think I have done this before when I was choosing between two words and ended up combining them. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama Last edited by richlevy; 02-03-2005 at 10:25 PM.

03-01-2005, 10:27 AM	#23
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	What a load of crap. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

03-01-2005, 11:18 AM	#25
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	3rd __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

03-01-2005, 11:23 AM	#26
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	It's great that you think it's a load of crap. Mind saying WHY you think it's a load of crap? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

03-01-2005, 12:01 PM	#27
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Or try this: remove the phrase "they can't believe in God because" and re-read it. I don't think it's crap.

03-01-2005, 12:29 PM	#30
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	Actually, in my discussions with people who don't believe in God, say one of the reasons is that "There is so much death and suffering in the world, how could a loving God allow that?" Many of those people do nothing to help the people in the world (or even their own community) that are homeless, starving, need clothes or even a kind word. Why? Because if there is no God, then we're all here by random chance, decended from animals, nothing more than a higher functioning ape. Survival of the fittest, natural selection, only the strong survive. There are haves and have-nots. If you have not, and can't get, then you die. End of problem. __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

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