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Urbane Guerrilla · 02-08-2009, 07:48 PM

It also sounds like "shingshing shingshing shingshing shingshing!" Somewhere between pocket change and the rustling of leaves.

Aliantha · 02-08-2009, 07:51 PM

lol...thanks for that. The image is so much better now.

BTW, I think classic is getting tired. Keep running UG.

Urbane Guerrilla · 02-08-2009, 09:41 PM

Arf arf arf.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-08-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

ok, now the mental image I have is of classic running around the couch being followed by UG in chainmail carrying a horse whip. lol

Trust me, it's funny!

Don't forget the bagpipe.

Aliantha · 02-08-2009, 10:21 PM

Bruce! You're killing me!!! A girl can only take so much you know. lol

TheMercenary · 02-08-2009, 11:55 PM

And the Haggis.

Aliantha · 02-09-2009, 12:18 AM

ok, now it's just too funny.

THAT'S ENOUGH!!!

TheMercenary · 02-09-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redux

IMO, the Palestinian people are the pawn. Their fate is in their own hands.

A quote from Golda Meir says it all for me:

“We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us”.

Well said.

TheMercenary · 02-09-2009, 08:59 AM

An interesting assessment:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200901u/gaza

sugarpop · 02-09-2009, 01:04 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...de-678667.html

Writing in the New York Review of Books, Robert Malley, who was Mr Clinton's special adviser on Arab-Israeli affairs, claims that Mr Barak failed to honour previous Israeli agreements – assurances which Mr Clinton had been personally guaranteed to Mr Arafat. Mr Barak, the author writes, failed to fulfil promises to withdraw from three villages around Jerusalem and to release Palestinian prisoners – provoking an angry confrontation with Mr Clinton...

...In reality, Palestinian officials and American sources – the latter wisely avoiding Israeli condemnation by talking anonymously – have pointed out that the figure of 96 per cent represented the percentage of the land over which Israel was prepared to negotiate – not 96 per cent of the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip.

Left out of the equation was Arab east Jerusalem – illegally annexed by Israel after the 1967 Arab-Israeli Six Day War – the huge belt of Jewish settlements, including Male Adumim, around the city and a 10-mile wide military buffer zone around the Palestinian territories.

Along with the obligation to lease back settlements – built illegally under international law on Arab land – to Israel for 25 years, the total Palestinian land from which Israel was prepared to withdraw came to only around 46 per cent – a far cry from the 96 per cent touted after Camp David.

http://www.islamonline.net/english/N...rticle18.shtml
WASHINGTON, July 18 (IslamOnline) - In a new revelation that disputes a widely held U.S. view that Palestinian President Yasser Arafat caused the breakdown of U.S.-sponsored Mideast peace talks last year, a report in The Washington Post said that former President Bill Clinton was in fact exasperated at former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak's strategy during the talks.

Though President Clinton publicly blamed the Palestinians for the failure of the Camp David peace summit last July, privately he became exasperated with Barak's negotiating tactics, according to a key White House adviser, The Washington Post said.

The paper also said that at the close of Camp David, a frustrated Clinton blamed Arafat for missing a chance for a "historic deal", thus breaking a pledge to the Palestinian leader that he would not be faulted if the summit failed.

OnyxCougar · 02-09-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

it is manifest that statelessness is a very dangerous condition to be in in Europe.

Anyone read "Bury Me Standing" by Isabel Fontescu?

The Roma are stateless, and atrocities against them are legalized and encouraged across most (if not all) European countries, from Germany to Russia.

They have been compared to Jews before Israel.

Urbane Guerrilla · 02-09-2009, 10:49 PM

I'd heard of this, which is why I spoke of statelessness.

Urbane Guerrilla · 02-09-2009, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Don't forget the bagpipe.

Don't forget playing Monty Python's The Lumberjack Song on the bagpipes. It does fit.

It will have to wait, though, until I've finished chasing Classic around the sofa. Puff puff puff.

Then we can refresh ourselves with the haggis and the whisky and the bashed neeps. Sort of a post-Burns Night supper.

Aliantha · 02-09-2009, 10:54 PM

I never realised you were so into role playing UG. lol

There's a turn up for the books.

classicman · 02-09-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

It will have to wait, though, until I've finished chasing Classic around the sofa. Puff puff puff.

OK, you are creeping me out now - A LOT!

02-08-2009, 07:48 PM	#286
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02-08-2009, 07:51 PM	#287
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02-08-2009, 09:41 PM	#288
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02-08-2009, 10:21 PM	#290
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02-08-2009, 11:55 PM	#291
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	And the Haggis. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-09-2009, 12:18 AM	#292
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02-09-2009, 08:59 AM	#294
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	An interesting assessment: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200901u/gaza __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-09-2009, 01:04 PM	#295
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...de-678667.html Writing in the New York Review of Books, Robert Malley, who was Mr Clinton's special adviser on Arab-Israeli affairs, claims that Mr Barak failed to honour previous Israeli agreements – assurances which Mr Clinton had been personally guaranteed to Mr Arafat. Mr Barak, the author writes, failed to fulfil promises to withdraw from three villages around Jerusalem and to release Palestinian prisoners – provoking an angry confrontation with Mr Clinton... ...In reality, Palestinian officials and American sources – the latter wisely avoiding Israeli condemnation by talking anonymously – have pointed out that the figure of 96 per cent represented the percentage of the land over which Israel was prepared to negotiate – not 96 per cent of the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip. Left out of the equation was Arab east Jerusalem – illegally annexed by Israel after the 1967 Arab-Israeli Six Day War – the huge belt of Jewish settlements, including Male Adumim, around the city and a 10-mile wide military buffer zone around the Palestinian territories. Along with the obligation to lease back settlements – built illegally under international law on Arab land – to Israel for 25 years, the total Palestinian land from which Israel was prepared to withdraw came to only around 46 per cent – a far cry from the 96 per cent touted after Camp David. http://www.islamonline.net/english/N...rticle18.shtml WASHINGTON, July 18 (IslamOnline) - In a new revelation that disputes a widely held U.S. view that Palestinian President Yasser Arafat caused the breakdown of U.S.-sponsored Mideast peace talks last year, a report in The Washington Post said that former President Bill Clinton was in fact exasperated at former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak's strategy during the talks. Though President Clinton publicly blamed the Palestinians for the failure of the Camp David peace summit last July, privately he became exasperated with Barak's negotiating tactics, according to a key White House adviser, The Washington Post said. The paper also said that at the close of Camp David, a frustrated Clinton blamed Arafat for missing a chance for a "historic deal", thus breaking a pledge to the Palestinian leader that he would not be faulted if the summit failed.

02-09-2009, 10:49 PM	#297
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	I'd heard of this, which is why I spoke of statelessness. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

02-09-2009, 10:54 PM	#299
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I never realised you were so into role playing UG. lol There's a turn up for the books. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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