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chrisinhouston · 07-26-2013, 12:36 PM

Millions can be helped by this new drug!

http://youtu.be/Hhhq90eJNdA

Lamplighter · 07-29-2013, 10:51 PM

I was in the perfect mood to watch this video.
It's entertaining, topical and a bit controversial, and simply a few minutes of human nature on display.

ZenGum · 07-30-2013, 07:29 AM

He somewhat over represented his academic qualifications. His PhD is in contemporary sociology of Islam, not history of religions. There were other embellishments.

Clodfobble · 07-30-2013, 08:21 AM

That same Fox News anchor never asked a Baptist college professor why he wrote a book about Islam.

Lamplighter · 07-30-2013, 08:35 AM

So you're a Doctor of Philosophy, eh !

That's not a real doctor, is it ?

You studied ' what ? '

Why would anyone want to study ' that ' ?

But still, you're not a real doctor, are you ?

Yes, so what good is ' that ' ?

Doc, I have this pain in my arm when I raise it up like this ?

Yeah, but you said you were a doctor...

What's philosophical about that ?

Well, why would you ever want to do ' that ' ?

So, did it cost a lot to go to medical school ?

Oh, but you said you were a doctor...

But why would you want to study ' that ' ?

Boy, that must be great... being around all those sexy nurses all day.

Well anyway, doctors earn a lot of money. How much do you make ?

Great talking with ya, Doc

BigV · 07-30-2013, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum

He somewhat over represented his academic qualifications. His PhD is in contemporary sociology of Islam, not history of religions. There were other embellishments.

You say "embellishments", I say simplifications. He was mercifully and patiently keeping the conversation on the interviewer's level, like any good teacher would. Why would the teacher move on to more advanced aspects of an idea when the student hadn't yet grasped the fundamentals?

I read a little and found that his (PhD) degree is in the sociology of religion, not only Islam. Also, his academic work to that point included a great deal of study and coursework in religion in a historical context (what else is there? religion of today?) giving him justification for his claims to be a historian, in my opinion.

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Leaving aside the fact that the Ph.D. was in the sociology of religion, Reza Aslan’s dissertation adviser, Prof. Mark Juergensmayer, weighed in:

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Originally Posted by Prof. Mark Juergensmayer

Since i was Reza’s thesis adviser at the Univ of California-Santa Barbara, I can testify that he is a religious studies scholar. (I am a sociologist of religion with a position in sociology and an affiliation with religious studies). Though Reza’s PhD is in sociology most of his graduate course work at UCSB was in the history of religion in the dept of religious studies. Though none of his 4 degrees are in history as such, he is a “historian of religion” in the way that that term is used at the Univ of Chicago to cover the field of comparative religion; and his theology degree at Harvard covered Bible and Church history, and required him to master New Testament Greek. So in short, he is who he says he is.

It is not unreasonable for a person who majored in the sociology of religion to consider himself a historian of religion if his emphasis during study was in history. There is a very large overlap between the fields, especially since “most of his graduate course work was in the history of religion in the dept of religious studies.”

What other embellishments did you notice?

BigV · 07-31-2013, 12:10 PM

Porn sex vs Real sex, explained with food.

Flint · 08-03-2013, 10:15 PM

"22% of women will take a hot load in the face?"

Wow, that is surprising. I've only ever done that on accident, or by request.

Gravdigr · 08-05-2013, 04:24 PM

In a place that had clean up facilities, too, I bet.

You know you're loved when you get that request out in the woods where there ain't even a moist towelette.

Lamplighter · 08-06-2013, 06:18 PM

CNET.com
Amanda Kooser
August 6, 2013

ScienceCasts: The Sun's Magnetic Field is About to Flip

xoxoxoBruce · 08-07-2013, 07:48 PM

It'll be more interesting when the Earth flips poles, which is overdue.

Gravdigr · 08-09-2013, 01:45 PM

Says 'water bomber', but, it's foam, I think. Still cool as hell.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-13-2013, 02:35 PM

Apparently it's 1620 gallons of water with "flame retardant" mixed in, but still not foam.
Link

glatt · 08-14-2013, 07:43 AM

I was watching the Teen Choice Awards the other night while surfing around on the Cellar or something, and somebody else had the remote. I was only giving it about a third of my attention, because it was the Teen Choice Awards, and that's really all it deserved. Imbecile after imbecile was getting up there on the stage.

But then they gave some sort of lifetime achievement award to Ashton Kutcher. They showed all these clips from his career, and it occurred to me that he had been around for a while now and has really done a lot of stuff. Much more than you would realize until you start counting it all up. And he was actually pretty talented to be doing all that stuff.

So he get up there on stage, and the first thing he does is start joking about how he's getting the old geezer award at a Teen Choice Awards ceremony. That instantly drew me in, because this was a guy who has actually got a clue about what's going on, and where he fits in.

And then he proceeded to give probably the best awards show speech I have ever heard. Lookout posted this over on FB because he thought it was great, and that made me realize that this was a speech that deserves to be seen. So here it is. Sorry for the poor video quality.

The guy could be a teacher. He tells the audience what he's going to say. Then he actually says it in some detail with great examples, and then finally, he finishes by reminding the audience what he just said.

I like this guy. And now I respect him too.

BigV · 08-14-2013, 12:04 PM

it was good.

and he's right on target, too. mostly. *spoiler, I'm gonna reference his points* opportunity looking like work, yep, it does. but, not all hard, good work provides opportunity. sometimes it's just a grind. the hard work arc he describes is traced by countless others, a vanishingly few of which result in the same pinnacle upon which he rests there on stage. hard work *is* important, unquestionably. but starting conditions are also crucial, and so are other things less tangible things like poverty and education and gender and skin color that have a tremendous influence on "opportunity" (which still requires work, granted).

being sexy, itself, is a huge part of opportunity as it translates into getting the desirable attention of those who could deliver opportunity. still, his point about what is "sexy", a term that is accepted by and embedded in the psyches of his audience is well played by him, as he suggests to them a different definition of "sexy"; being smart and thoughtful and generous. good on him for delivering a better and healthier mindset wrapped in paper they already like (or did he just give them the opportunity to improve themselves by adopting this new attitude, leaving the hard work of living up to these standards of "sexy"?)

make a life, not live a life... a little vague, and the supporting arguments he makes are not ones I agree with. I don't agree that "all this you see around you was made by people *no smarter than you*". I don't agree with that. LOTS of what I enjoy, take for granted, was thought up and produced by people lots smarter than me (usually in very specific areas, but we're talking about very specific aspects of life). I really like the message he's trying to deliver "you can be anything and make anything you can dream up, just like everything you see around you was dreamt up by someone" (paraphrasing), and he saves this important exhortation for the end when he's got his maximum momentum, but it doesn't follow for me. the second part of his point, to live thoughtfully, with an eye for what could be and don't be a sheep--that's good advice and I agree with it.

It was a good speech, and he delivered good points well. He was talking to a very receptive audience ("WEE LUV YOOOOOOUUU", which always helps). I think he's got a handle on it.

07-30-2013, 07:29 AM	#3138
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	He somewhat over represented his academic qualifications. His PhD is in contemporary sociology of Islam, not history of religions. There were other embellishments. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

07-30-2013, 08:21 AM	#3139
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	That same Fox News anchor never asked a Baptist college professor why he wrote a book about Islam. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

07-31-2013, 12:10 PM	#3142
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Porn sex vs Real sex, explained with food. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-03-2013, 10:15 PM	#3143
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08-05-2013, 04:24 PM	#3144
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	In a place that had clean up facilities, too, I bet. You know you're loved when you get that request out in the woods where there ain't even a moist towelette. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

07-26-2013, 12:36 PM	#3136
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	Millions can be helped by this new drug! http://youtu.be/Hhhq90eJNdA

07-29-2013, 10:51 PM	#3137
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	I was in the perfect mood to watch this video. It's entertaining, topical and a bit controversial, and simply a few minutes of human nature on display.

07-30-2013, 08:35 AM	#3140
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	So you're a Doctor of Philosophy, eh ! That's not a real doctor, is it ? You studied ' what ? ' Why would anyone want to study ' that ' ? But still, you're not a real doctor, are you ? Yes, so what good is ' that ' ? Doc, I have this pain in my arm when I raise it up like this ? Yeah, but you said you were a doctor... What's philosophical about that ? Well, why would you ever want to do ' that ' ? So, did it cost a lot to go to medical school ? Oh, but you said you were a doctor... But why would you want to study ' that ' ? Boy, that must be great... being around all those sexy nurses all day. Well anyway, doctors earn a lot of money. How much do you make ? Great talking with ya, Doc

08-06-2013, 06:18 PM	#3145
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	CNET.com Amanda Kooser August 6, 2013 ScienceCasts: The Sun's Magnetic Field is About to Flip

08-07-2013, 07:48 PM	#3146
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It'll be more interesting when the Earth flips poles, which is overdue. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-09-2013, 01:45 PM	#3147
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Says 'water bomber', but, it's foam, I think. Still cool as hell. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

08-13-2013, 02:35 PM	#3148
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Apparently it's 1620 gallons of water with "flame retardant" mixed in, but still not foam. Link Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-14-2013, 07:43 AM	#3149
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I was watching the Teen Choice Awards the other night while surfing around on the Cellar or something, and somebody else had the remote. I was only giving it about a third of my attention, because it was the Teen Choice Awards, and that's really all it deserved. Imbecile after imbecile was getting up there on the stage. But then they gave some sort of lifetime achievement award to Ashton Kutcher. They showed all these clips from his career, and it occurred to me that he had been around for a while now and has really done a lot of stuff. Much more than you would realize until you start counting it all up. And he was actually pretty talented to be doing all that stuff. So he get up there on stage, and the first thing he does is start joking about how he's getting the old geezer award at a Teen Choice Awards ceremony. That instantly drew me in, because this was a guy who has actually got a clue about what's going on, and where he fits in. And then he proceeded to give probably the best awards show speech I have ever heard. Lookout posted this over on FB because he thought it was great, and that made me realize that this was a speech that deserves to be seen. So here it is. Sorry for the poor video quality. The guy could be a teacher. He tells the audience what he's going to say. Then he actually says it in some detail with great examples, and then finally, he finishes by reminding the audience what he just said. I like this guy. And now I respect him too.

08-14-2013, 12:04 PM	#3150
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	it was good. and he's right on target, too. mostly. spoiler, I'm gonna reference his points opportunity looking like work, yep, it does. but, not all hard, good work provides opportunity. sometimes it's just a grind. the hard work arc he describes is traced by countless others, a vanishingly few of which result in the same pinnacle upon which he rests there on stage. hard work is important, unquestionably. but starting conditions are also crucial, and so are other things less tangible things like poverty and education and gender and skin color that have a tremendous influence on "opportunity" (which still requires work, granted). being sexy, itself, is a huge part of opportunity as it translates into getting the desirable attention of those who could deliver opportunity. still, his point about what is "sexy", a term that is accepted by and embedded in the psyches of his audience is well played by him, as he suggests to them a different definition of "sexy"; being smart and thoughtful and generous. good on him for delivering a better and healthier mindset wrapped in paper they already like (or did he just give them the opportunity to improve themselves by adopting this new attitude, leaving the hard work of living up to these standards of "sexy"?) make a life, not live a life... a little vague, and the supporting arguments he makes are not ones I agree with. I don't agree that "all this you see around you was made by people no smarter than you". I don't agree with that. LOTS of what I enjoy, take for granted, was thought up and produced by people lots smarter than me (usually in very specific areas, but we're talking about very specific aspects of life). I really like the message he's trying to deliver "you can be anything and make anything you can dream up, just like everything you see around you was dreamt up by someone" (paraphrasing), and he saves this important exhortation for the end when he's got his maximum momentum, but it doesn't follow for me. the second part of his point, to live thoughtfully, with an eye for what could be and don't be a sheep--that's good advice and I agree with it. It was a good speech, and he delivered good points well. He was talking to a very receptive audience ("WEE LUV YOOOOOOUUU", which always helps). I think he's got a handle on it. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

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