Hot takes on the Democratic frontrunners

[Luce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Well, I look up and I ain't seein' any authoritarian/fascistic hoopla goin' on either. And: I'm thinkin' my penny ante money makin' falls well outside the attention of the big boys with their machinations.

So this is libertarianism? Authoritarianism only matters once you yourself are affected?

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Luce

Or I could just look at the stock market and BLS graphs.

Yep...and some fella will tell you a prez has little to do with them numbers while another fella will tell you a prez has everything to do with them numbers.

Pick your poison.

Me: I just look at how I'm doin'.

Trump hasn't helped me.

Obama hurt me.

Where you stand as you look at the platypus informs what you think about the platypus.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Luce

So this is libertarianism? Authoritarianism only matters once you yourself are affected?

There ain't no authoritarianism goin' on.

Wanna see some?

Elect Bernie.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

There ain't no authoritarianism goin' on.

Okay.

[henry quirk]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/bs-aler...-an-epic-fail/

mind all the links

[Luce]

PJ Media.

Hang on while I go fetch something from democratic underground or something else as credible as PJ.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Luce

PJ Media.

Hang on while I go fetch something from democratic underground or something else as credible as PJ.

Did you not read the disclaimer?

some spicy propaganda

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Follow the Libertarian persuasion and you can ignore any Democratic solon extant. They seem to be running the gamut between hallucinatory readings of current events and creative writing, House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff (D-Burbank CA) serving as an example of both. They are markedly out to lunch on economics and the current economy -- they are banking on your ignorance. Don't give them that win.

Trump didn't get my vote -- in 2016. By me, he's earned four more years; his bitter enemies are actuated not by law nor by ethics, nor by decency, nor by morals, definitely not by the Constitution: they are actuated solely by prejudice, and that taints. Out upon them all!

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Follow the Libertarian persuasion and you can ignore any Democratic solon extant.

So give up one set of irrational beliefs for a less rational set of beliefs?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

his bitter enemies are actuated not by law nor by ethics, nor by decency, nor by morals, definitely not by the Constitution: they are actuated solely by prejudice,

Prejudice towards ethics, decency, morals, and the Constitution.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Not remotely, HM. Observe their behavior. Ask yourself if "impeachment first, offense (if any) afterwards" is supportable or even endurable, let alone supportive of the Constitution. I say it is not, and I long ago took an oath to support it. Also that those who want to behave that way are antidemocratic fanatics of the first water.

Are you an antidemocrat, fanatical or not? Were you not *so* ready to substitute Party (deliberately capitalized; I consider them ignorant subversives) loyalty for something understandable as ethical thought, I'd be able to recognize you as intelligent and thoughtful.

Would that be nice, or not so nice?

Luce, care to explain in exhaustive detail -- or any detail -- just what's so irrational about free minds, free markets, and the natural, human-nature-friendly flow of capitalism? The people who congratulate themselves on disdaining capitalism are people of no effect and less wealth -- even less of adulthood. Does this amount to a fair if unvarnished description of you? If you *can* want to, prove otherwise. Don't offer excuse -- show me.

You will be much aided if you expose yourself to Dinesh D'Souza. I mean his writing, especially What's So Great About Capitalism. And I suppose secondarily his Stealing America, which is more about his own whitecollar brush with the law than anything of overarching social commentary. That can be found elsewhere.

You do, however, need a hunger for knowledge that's roughly equal to mine.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Yep . . .

Where you stand as you look at the platypus informs what you think about the platypus.

The Creator has a sense of humor.

What's more, they're little and cute. Perhaps "the tough-spined echidna" is cuter, being littler.

Just wanted to mention it.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

You will be much aided if you expose yourself to Dinesh D'Souza.

*blink*

As for the rest of your post, how about "no"? I have already stated my case, and I'm terribly sorry to tell you that you aren't my supervisor.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Has it never occurred to you your stated case would not satisfy a tough-spined echidna//Who if you don't mind would prefer that you didna? What you are doing does not persuade anyone as to the worth of emulating it.

You have so far declared in cold print you have *no* argument for believing as you do. I always make my arguments clear, even to those incapable of perceiving. Those -- they have to bear my pity, sorry wretches that they are. A bad religious attachment -- so many cling to the lesser way with a religious devotion -- can really bugger up a mind. Maybe without that "up."

I read, and am made wise.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Has it never occurred to you your stated case would not satisfy a tough-spined echidna//Who if you don't mind would prefer that you didna? What you are doing does not persuade anyone as to the worth of emulating it.

You have so far declared in cold print you have *no* argument for believing as you do. I always make my arguments clear, even to those incapable of perceiving. Those -- they have to bear my pity, sorry wretches that they are. A bad religious attachment -- so many cling to the lesser way with a religious devotion -- can really bugger up a mind. Maybe without that "up."

I read, and am made wise.

No, what I said was that I don't follow your orders.

I also said that I stated my case.

Since you refuse to be honest, this conversation is over.